Gen. 6:1-4 Concerning the Nephilim: this is a time when it's important to know Hebrew and I'd suggest any and everyone to try and learn it if at all possible (same goes for Greek). When reading this passage in Hebrew it makes perfect sense. The word “nephil" means "giant". The masculine plural form is “nephilim". All masculine plurals in Hebrew end in “im" (pronounced "eem").
Were there giants in ancient days? Yes there were. We know of Goliath in 1 Sam 17. But here's the misunderstanding. We often think of giants in the way of the giant from say "Jack and the bean stalk." Some humanoid form the size of a small skyscraper, or some other medieval conception. This was not what a giant was. Goliath was by most estimates nine feet tall. This term would include some of our NBA players of today, although they'd be a little short. There are some new excavations that have verified the existence of these "giants." Not far from our base in Sardinia in Italy they have uncovered tombs that are over nine feet in length. This place is called "The Tomb of the Giants." The tribe of Philistines from this area are called the "Shardana". This very well may have been where Goliath was from. The Philistines prior to that were from farther north. We do know they were Caucasian and blue eyed (originally probably Nordic). We can tell from the bones and the pigmentation of ones skin. From their paintings of themselves we see the color of their eyes. The Philistines that settled in Israel were mostly in the Gaza area. Today you will see, from time to time, Palestinians from that area who still have the blue eyes and that is from when the Philistines mixed with the Arab populace centuries ago.
What happens with Genesis 6 is some will see the term "sons of G-d"
and interpret that as meaning spirit beings. This is in no way true.
The sons of G-d simply mean righteous men. We see Jesus use this same term in a very well known passage but those propagating a "super human race" haven't connected the dots. You may remember this passage in Mt 5:9: Blessed are the peacemakers, because they will be called what??? The sons of God!!! If the sons of G-d are some super human race who has faded out, then what does this mean?
That they have come back? LOL No, it means righteous men. So, what happened here in Genesis 6?
Well, back in the ancient days of Noah when there were still groups or tribes of large people who were around 12 feet tall, there were some righteous men who fell and began marrying these women even though they were not girls who followed G-d and they had families with these women and they themselves turned their back on G-d. That's it. Nothing more then that.
We know that spirits cannot have sex with people! The Bible says in Matt 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. So angles do not marry or reproduce, there's no need for them to. There are no "baby angels"! Demons are fallen angels (angel means, "messenger" in Greek) so they too don't have reproductive organs. So the idea that demons were having sex with women is simply ridicules.
The Bible is full of wonders, so we don't need to look for anything more fantastic then it already is. There's no super-human race unless of course you add some of the members of the NBA.
If anyone is interested in who the Philistines were, I will soon be posting this and more information on my site. It's quite a study.
I will be posting pictures from some of the digs I've been on in Israel and some of the Philistine artefacts I've found there and in other places such as in Europe etc.
Shalom, Rabbi Stanley http://mosaicministries.homestead.com
» left by Teresa from Pearland, Texas (3 years 103 days ago.)
I enjoyed this articcle, but why do you not spell out GOD?? Respond to this comment
» left by KiKi from United States (2 years 335 days ago.)
Why do you say that the WOMEN that the Respond to this comment
» left by Joshua from San Antonio (2 years 335 days ago.)
Yes, Angels and Fallen Angels do not marry, but that does not mean they cannot have sex with humans. Demons can physically manifest themselves and shape shift. Sex with demons (UFO's)will alter human DNA: Neanderthal, Nephalim, other humanoids. Respond to this comment
» left by Karen from Texas (2 years 296 days ago.)
Many inaccuracies and suppositions. Respond to this comment
» left by Steve Sooter from Arkansas (2 years 199 days ago.)
Very well said. Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle (2 years 158 days ago.)
I'll answer these posts one by one.
I don't spell out the name of G-d in respect of any Jewish readers who may read this.
Angels are "not given in marriage" means they don't have sexual relations, otherwise marriage and given in marriage is redunda Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle (2 years 158 days ago.)
I ran out of text lol. redundant was my last word.
If there are any inaccuracies, please post instead of just stating that and giving nothing to back it up.
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» left by Sharon from Louisiana (2 years 123 days ago.)
I was pretty disappointed with the article. I am pretty in tune with God and I ask Him plenty questions. He is the one who told me about the "shifty" people. They do shape-shift. I have pictures of politicians shape-shifting in their pics on my w Respond to this comment
» left by GWH from Australia (2 years 102 days ago.)
Does anyone know if there are DNA Test results of any Phillistine Giants found on record that could be compared with. Reason I ask is that I have some of Goliath's features [extra fingers, etc], family originates from areas occupied by Scythians, family name is in the Bible [it is a rare one] and there was discovered in Ukraine the remains of ancient City [near where family is from] as documented by Herodotus. Also, does anyone know of Link between Biblical Giants and them having Brain Tumours? Respond to this comment
» left by Arnold Lane from England (2 years 78 days ago.)
The nephalim were a mixture of fallen anles and human beings.
Yes angels are capable of taking on diffrent forms. And i belive they disobeyed god and indulged in illicit unions with the human race [females] and the nephilim race was the result.. Respond to this comment
» left by Daniel from Texas, USA (2 years 45 days ago.)
Ironic that last night on the Family Channel there was a movie called "Fallen" about this very subject. Of course, I don't expect Hollywood to worry about being accurate in their portrayals! Good background information. Thank you. Respond to this comment
» left by m man from home (2 years 45 days ago.)
Dr. KC Price's son has a sermon that claims angels had sex with women, it's called "What in hell do you want ?" I knew it was not correct. He incorrectly assumes that "Sons of God", refers to angels. Totally wrong. Respond to this comment
» left by Wulfgirl from Sacramento, CA (2 years 39 days ago.)
Thanks for putting out an reasonable interpretation of what Nephilim (giants) were. Too many people think that what a TV show says (ie. Nephilim are the children of angels) is fact without trying to verify such ideas. Respond to this comment
» left by Wulfgirl from Sacramento, CA (2 years 39 days ago.)
I think the Biblical story of the Nephilim might be based on the ancient Summerian myths of the Annunaki. These beings are sometimes shown with wings, but in at least one picture have the head of an eagle. Many ancient myths speak of divine beings having relations with human women. Aliens? Divine beings? or mythic constructs? What do you think? Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle, WA (2 years 33 days ago.)
Shalom,
Well, I'm glad this has generated some thought at least. I do hope it will cause you to get into Scripture and check it out. There are many "Biblical Myths" out there and I hope to dispel them one by one. Be sure to visit our site at Mosaic Ministries for more articles.
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» left by Michael from Tarpon Springs FL. (2 years 24 days ago.)
Ive been doing some research on this topic and found some conflictions between rabbi stanleys argument and another article, submitted below.
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle, WA (2 years 24 days ago.)
I sent you an email, you can reach me there. Rabbi Stanley Respond to this comment
» left by monique from malta (2 years 16 days ago.)
hello i am from malta...................i am doing a course in angelolgh. i like to learn about these things. i believe that angels are spirits and can take the form of anything they want to. so yes i deeply believe that angels can make love to woman becouse God created love so i do not think that these so called "FALLEN ANGELS"can be punised from god! can you give me your opinion pls. Respond to this comment
» left by Pat Morgan from Orlando, FL (1 year 317 days ago.)
I have researched this subject at great length and I respectfully disagree with Rabbi Stanley. The Apocryphal Book of Enoch is a great reference point to this very subject. However, in the scripture you will find: I Corinthians 11:7-10... I have other references that I will post at another time, however, the truth is out there... Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 301 days ago.)
Another typical "higher critic" to tell all of us unwashed out here how ignorant we all are for thinking that the Bible does not mean what it say's. The fallen angels had sexual relations with the daughters of Adam just like Satan sexually seduced Eve and she had Cain. Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 280 days ago.)
Why would righteous men (sons of God) having sex with non-righteous women create a possible genetic anomaly. Righteous men today have sex with non-righteous women and we dont see nephilim offspring. Respond to this comment
» left by Julie from Canada (1 year 269 days ago.)
wow very informative . thank you Respond to this comment
» left by Benny from Modesto, CA (1 year 266 days ago.)
Pat Morgan has got a piece of scripture that can not be ignored. I to have done a lot of research on this. In Genesis 6:20 it says, "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautifiul, and they married any of them they chose". Why did God say, sons of God and daughters of men? Because he distinguished them apart. He could of said, sons of men married daughters of men or sons of God married daughters of God. Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle wa (1 year 169 days ago.)
As I've said in the article above, we see the term "Son's of G-d" used to describe G-dly men. It says daughters of men because these were not righteous women. To answer the other question, there wasn't a genetic anomaly BECAUSE they slept with these women, they were already giants (large people)! I hope this helps.
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» left by r.s. neaville from greenville texas (1 year 163 days ago.)
idiocy...the bible clearly says that angels and women had children and were the nephilim...end of story. Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle (1 year 162 days ago.)
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans 8:19
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Philippians 2:15
That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
1 John 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle (1 year 162 days ago.)
Angels (and thus demons) don't have reproduction organs. The thought that they are running around having sex is the real idiocy Neavil. Respond to this comment
» left by researched from Illinois (1 year 151 days ago.)
What about the book of Jude, it speaks about this partiular subject. Respond to this comment
» left by derrick from cumbria (1 year 123 days ago.)
Ineresting, but one question....If the sons of GOD still marry sons of men today,,why are there offsping not giants also??? yours Derrick. Respond to this comment
» left by Derrick Cook from cumbria (1 year 122 days ago.)
,I should have said....If the sons of GOD still marry daughters of men today,why dont their children become giants? Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Seattle (1 year 122 days ago.)
I explained in the article that these people were already giants. They didn't "create" a new breed of giants. Those large people died out. When? I don't know. Respond to this comment
» left by Nenka from Near Earth (1 year 103 days ago.)
Hey Rabbi Stanley, not to make this a racial issue but erm... wel... err.. it is intersting to note that with most ancient findings seeming to depict a Moorish type (dark skinned) person as the oldest in discoveries, evidenced by tut ank Amen skull shape, Lucy, other hyroglyphics (dark people) sun diety's (Melanin contracting) Incan, egyptian and Mayan statues with obvious features of dark skinned people, it seems highly strange and unconvincing that any one (especially a Rabbi) in this Aquarian age of information, truth and uncovering, could entertain the egocentric myth that a caucasion being could occupy such a position more than 6,000 years ago.
Therefore it is my human duty as a natural dweller in this day of truth to set the record straight and thus no longer passify the needs of the myth of ruling a supremacy class. In the aquarian age a spade is a spade.
No Rabbi they live on and still leave their Genetic print in the so called black people of today, they today still after being suspisciously being forced from thiere original extraterestial practices of Astrology, still maintain (though compromised through force fed religion) a spiritual connection with Anu. They still have certain endurance levels unknown to other races which have kept them alive even through the most magnificent and premeditated genocide known to man. They age slowly almost in accordance with another Solar system. These people have been systematically taught a history of slavery alone, detaching them from their glorious contributions to western society in the way of Medicine (Egypt), Alchemy (Hermes), Geometry (Moorish) even Architecture (The Whitehouse, Washington DC., Casa Blanca/Benjamin Banneka Bey) Suspiciously been encouraged to busy themselves in music, sport and idle activities to surely keep the mind in slumber.As Hesed quoted "You are what you know." It appears to me as though it is truly time for us to let go of the ego, handle the truth put racial prejudices back in the piscean age where it belongs with Caesar and the church and look for solution where it lies right beneath your nose because the only thing to lose is pride and thats a SIN.
» left by scientist (1 year 98 days ago.)
"Well, back in the ancient days of Noah when there were still groups or tribes of large people who were around 12 feet tall..."
Umm...evidence??? Just case you say it, doesn't make it true. Facts have multiple sources which corroborate to define a truth. Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 72 days ago.)
My goodness. You certainly have a lot of comments. I have read quite a few articles and I haven't come across any that seem to have raised as much controversy as this. I enjoyed your article very much, though I'm from the wierd camp that believes the Nephilim were the product of human daughters and fallen angels. If I'm not mistaken, hasn't that been the traditional teaching of Jewish rabbis down through the centuries? Respond to this comment
» left by Gabriel from Jerusalem (1 year 71 days ago.)
You folks are one crazy bunch of dummies. (no offense)
Do you really think that - if a superior beings like N...ms should really exist, that the would meddle or - even worse - have sex with stupid humans.
Thats like if you people would have relations with some chimps...!!!
(Besides the anatomical fact that there would be no "fruit"...)
Go home, water your daysies, pray to who- or whatever your god is; but for Christ's sake stop littering the world with your ignorant opinions...
» left by Anonymous (1 year 70 days ago.)
You should take your own advice. Respond to this comment
» left by reymie from texas (1 year 61 days ago.)
wow, the article and the comments have really opened my line of thinking up. i believe that nephilim r the offspring of women and fallen angels. i will do more research tho. thanks to u Rabbi for a great disussion, reymie zuniga, texas Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 50 days ago.)
Several years ago, while researching this same topic, I came upon a reference to the sons of god. It quoted from the ancient Canaanite language. Reference was made to the equivalent expression in that language (totally unpronouncable to me.) These "mighty men of old" were called the " sons of the gods" My thaught was and still is that this expression could have been the origin of the problem. In Hebrew, I assume it would become "sons of God" because making the word god plural may be tantamount to supporting polytheism. Am I nuts? possibly, but it is an interesting thaught. Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 50 days ago.)
P.S to my previous comment about the nephalim. Much has been said about angels and their lack of sex organs. Consider this thaught. Since we know that there were angels who "kept not their first estate", Could it be that these beings, perhaps I should call them demons (the correct terminology). One thing is horrifically clear that and that is, demons can and do possess human hosts. My next question is "What would happen if such a being were to mate with a human female, the host himself also being human?" Would there not be the possibility of offspring and would this not also solve the problem of who the offspring were? This view totally eradicates the idea that fallen angels can't produce offspring. In this way, they certainly could and the offspring would be totally human. Bye for now! Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 49 days ago.)
Rabbi Stanley; Re. my two entries above. I'm somewhat confused. I know Greek but not Hebrew and I have a linguistic type question. What's the difference between nephalim and nephilim? Respond to this comment
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (1 year 44 days ago.)
Shalom Anonymous,
Both nephalim and nephilim are transliterations of the same word in Hebrew. Spelled Nun, Fay, Lamed, and Mem-so-feet. As far as your other comment. If a possesed woman gets pregnant, it is from another human being and the genetics are from 2 human beings... not from a spirit.
Hope that helps,
Rabbi Stanley
» left by Anonymous (1 year 37 days ago.)
That was my thinking also. The next logical question would be "Could these purely human offspring be the the "giants" mentioned? This would be more logical than saying that these giants were angel-human hybrids. It could also explain the origin of the Philistines couldn't it? Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 37 days ago.)
I just realized that I have my genders mixed up! I guess I need to learn to think like a Rabbi. (No insult intended.) I've been getting the main characters in this scenario mixed up. The Sons of G-d are the good guys and the daughters of men are the other side. Right? In the scenario I've set up, it's quite possible that the bad angels possessed the daughters of men. The intent being to seduce them away from serving God. The expected result of this arrangement was, of course, (human) offspring. Now, I think I've got it straight. The question that arises now is "Were the offspring the Nephalim?" Any insights on that one?
» left by Anonymous (1 year 36 days ago.)
Rabbi Stanley
How do I ask you questions about other topics? I don't have a working email.
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» left by Suppiluliuma from Chicago, IL (1 year 33 days ago.)
I just finished wathing the movie "The Fallen." It is kind of a fun "good guy vs. "bad guy" movie (with shades of Star Wars), but not much more. What the movie did, however, was to remind me the inordinate attention given to angels, both in spiritual and secular circles. As someone who has studied, both Greek and Hebrew, along with Akkadian, Hittite, and a few other ancient languages, I certainly have some opinions on the role of angels in spiritual matters. They do have a role. What I would say here, however, is that for those who focus on the "fantastic" nature of angels, there is a good chance that they will miss the real message that overrides angels and their purpose in creation, that being the message of Christ. As Paul writes in Colossians 2:18, you should "Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things that he has not seen, but puffed up by his fleshly mind (KJV)." The NIV translates the verse as "Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has not seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions." This practice is, of course, not new. In the medieval world, scholars wasted their time arguing over how many angels could stand on the tip of a needle. Futile, needless, useless (and probably damaging) conjecture that focused on the created rather than the creator. Much of the current discussion, as interesting as it may be, falls in that same category. What then should be the object of our gaze into the spiritual world. Paul writes clearly in I Corinthians 15 that the real message in the Bible and in the spiritual world is that of God taking on the form of man, coming into this world, taking on our sins, dying on the cross, but then being raised from the dead as the first fruit of the redemptive process. The angels minister to this risen Christ so when you think of angels, you should cast your glance beyond those creatures who minister and focus on the one whom they minister to, the one who came from heaven, took on human flesh, and bought our redemption from sin (Romans 3:23/6:23) with his own blood. That's when we realize just how amazing is the grace we have received, a grace none of us deserve.
» left by Scogos.com from New York (1 year 21 days ago.)
The Nephilims were the descendants of the Anunnakis, the creators of the ancestors of modern Caucasian race. Therefore, the Caucasians have the DNA and the blood of the Anunnakis in them.
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» left by sioda from Michigan (1 year 16 days ago.)
Interesting discussion...I will certainly do my own research but it seems to me we are talking about an oral tradition that was recorded while the Israelites were captives in Babylon if I am not mistaken so other cultural oral traditions might have had an impact on the written form of this long held oral tradition would it not? Respond to this comment
» left by Anonymous (1 year 9 days ago.)
Hi Biz,
You and anyone else can reach me via our website by googeling "Mosaic Ministries" We have a Discussion Board there right near the top of the home page.
Also at the top of this page you can click on Mosaic Ministries to get there.
Rabbi Stanley
How do I ask you questions about other topics? I don't have a working email.
Biz
» left by Anonymous (1 year 9 days ago.)
I thought I'd also add that I am not trying to sway anyone from more important Biblical issues. This is one topic in many that I write about but it is one that many people are interested in. I'm not going to shy away from any topic including Angelology. People have the right to know the truth about anything written in the Bible and it should be noted that if it's in the Bible... we should study it! Scripture says "Study to show thyself approved unto G-d".
Rabbi Stanley
» left by Erin C. Thomas from Grove, OK USA (1 year 3 days ago.)
Wow!!! I liked your article as I am always open to all interpretations of the Nephalim. I have read most of the comments too. To Rabbi Stanley, I am curious if you would answer a few of the comments. I will list the names with the comments and would like to see if you could read the comments and get back to me via e-mail with your comments. Both (GWH from Australia) and (Nenka from Near Earth). I am to major in Studies of Religion and was interested in those two comments. Also, could you comment on the Sumerian Culture, and the creation of humans that Zacharia Sitchen wrote about?
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (354 days 3 hours ago.)
Shalom Erin,
I'll answer your questions as soon as you send me your email address.
Some of the comments here I haven't answered because they are pointless. Others I just haven't had time. I'm working with our Synagogue up here in Canada so I'm keeping pretty busy. But sure, send your email and I'd be happy to help.
Rabbi Stanley
» left by Maui, Maui Oregon from Napa, CA (322 days 4 hours ago.)
Rabbi Stanley, Thank you for your explanation. It was exactly what I was PRAYING for. I also commend you for using Scripture to back up Scripture, as you did by giving other references to the term sons of G-D. Perhaps this will encourage others to dust off or buy a concordance when reseaching Scripture. I pray that all those that read this site will remember that the the Bible is not open to "any private interpretation", and that many of the other Rabbi's that claim Nephalim are angel, human hybrids probably do not cross reference that verse with the New Testament, therefore not having the COMPLETE INERRANT Word of G-d. Thank you again.
» left by Mark from Benton, Arkansas (309 days 15 hours ago.)
Shalom Rabbi,
What about in the book of Job where Satan him self gathers with the sons of G-d befor the L-rd...Job 1:6...and also in chapter 2...who are these sons of God?
» left by demarco from ga (299 days 3 hours ago.)
sons of god is always used to refer to angels in the old testament. spirits do have gender. there are female spirits and male spirits read ZECHARIAH 5:9. also if u read the book of job u c sons of god refered to satan n his angels in the old testament. if u recall the story of sodom and ghomorah to MALE angels were eating and a mob of human men wanted to have sex with the MALE angels. the bible is clear that spirits can be male or female. jesus never said angels were asexual. jesus said that at the ressurection the angels in heaven wont marry. he never said they didnt possess gender. confusion comes from confused scholars n false teachers who try to tell us the bible doesnt mean what it says. if the bible says sons of god slept with daughters of men then god meant what he said. hope this helps.
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (299 days ago.)
demarco, did it ever cross your mind that just because the people of Sodom thought they had male organs that they still may not have had them? I've seen transvestites on TV that I thought were women. The only reason I knew later that they were men was because they said so. try to think things through. Rabbi Stanley
» left by Anonymous (293 days 14 hours ago.)
Folks, this discussion has been going on for over 2 years and I have never in my life read so many totally ignorant replies to a sound article, well studied and presented. I don't refer to anyone as Rabbi, and I know that I disagree with Mr. Stanley religiously, but I promise you he has this subject accurately presented. The sons of God through out the Old and New testaments refer to the righteous. Daughters of men here refer to women who, along with their people were unrighteous. But they are all still HUMAN. Spirits are a mentality...there is no physical part to them whatsoever. There cannot be since spirits are eternal, all physical matter (including sexual organs) is temporal (temporary). Now, instead of giving Stanley a hard time and thinking you know everthing, settle down and study the bible and related
sources, you'll see. There is no gender in heaven and no sex!
Mr. Stanley, you have the right and the means to delete as many of these replies that are nonsensical, including this one. Your article was great.
» left by robert lockett from united kingdom (292 days 11 hours ago.)
why should marriage between righteous men, with women who were the daughters of men, have produced giants who the bible calls, mighty men of old?after all righteous or not they were themselves men as much as the men who were the fathers of those women.
in job we read about the sons of god giving account of themselves before god and satan came and stood in their midst,(perhaps he had a right to be there.)who were they?if angels why are they called the sons of god?
and i believe in one of the psalms it speaks of the sons of god shouting for joy at the creation.where they angels too?
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (292 days 9 hours ago.)
I see that two people here have understood that I'm saying that normal sized men and women produced babies that grew up to be giants. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the men and wowmen were ALREADY giants and they produced babies that grew up to be giants themselves.
Also, thankyou Anonymous for your support. What's happening here is that some decide to believe what they want and no matter how the facts are presented, they won't believe it. That's their choice. But there are others here, like yourself, who want to hear the truth and that's who I really write for. Blessings to you,
Rabbi Stanley
» left by robert lockett from united kingdom (291 days 11 hours ago.)
Rabbi Stanley,is it correct theology to refer to angels as the sons of god.i have enjoyed your
nephalim article thank you.
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (291 days 11 hours ago.)
There are a couple times when other spirit beings are called "son's of God" but that's not the context when they are talking about the Nephalim. Overwhelmingly, when it says "son's of God" it is talking about Saints.
Blessings, Rabbi Stanley.
» left by Zzealotezz from Great White North (291 days 8 hours ago.)
I have a picture of a Nephalim upper torso being dug from the sands of Iraq during an oil exploration. The skull is huge, five to six feet long I would say.
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (291 days ago.)
I'd like to see the picture
» left by zzealotezz from Great White North (290 days 15 hours ago.)
Its in my other computer
» left by zzealotezz from Great White North (290 days 15 hours ago.)
Its in my other computer, its a shot down into an excavation,maybe 30' deep with a worker clearing away sand from around the bones, thats how i determined the size.
» left by zzealotezz from Great White North (290 days 15 hours ago.)
Its in my other computer, its a shot down into an excavation,maybe 30' deep with a worker clearing away sand from around the bones, thats how i determined the size.
» left by Rich from Seattle (283 days 11 hours ago.)
You need to do a hermeneutic drill down on sons of G-d, and read the book of Enoch, which is heavily drawn upon in Daniel, and revelation, referred to in Job, as well as quoted directly in Jude and James; Fragments of which have been found in Qumran. It was originally part of cannon, then voted out.. Dated to at least 300 BC, before which, was oral tradition. Purportedly written by Enoch, and perhaps rewritten by Noah. The oldest Genesis manuscript known to exist was also found at Qumran, but is dated to first century BC.
Many scholars believe that many books in the bible refer and borrow directly from 1 Enoch. Including small references in Genesis. Specifically the ones you claim refer to Righteous Men. In Enoch it states clearly that these were angels, who intermingled with the daughters of men. These angels were supposed to be intercessors for us, but became lustful and forsake their duty to G-d, to satisfy their lusts. This would be a SECOND fall of the angels, as Satan and his 1/3 of the heavenly host had already fallen, deceived man, and caused his fall from grace in Eden, and the introduction of sin. The second angelic fall, and subsequent product, the Nephilim, or "men of god", the offspring of these unions between angels and the daughters of men, describe the origin of evil. Evil arose out of our being taught all manner of arcana and the arts of war, by the angels and the Nephilim, corrupting us, and eventually bringing about the flood.
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (283 days 2 hours ago.)
Rich, none of what you've written here can be proved in even a small way. The book of Enoch which we have today, isn't even the Book of Enoch refered to in Scripture. What we have today is a pseudobiographical book. You might as well be quoting other pseudepigraphical works that tell fantastic tales about Jesus killing other children when he was young (Infancy Gospel of Thomas). Let's stick to Scripture and not nonsense.
Rabbi Stanley
» left by julian from Las Cruces New Mexico (276 days 12 hours ago.)
hi there!
» left by Julian from Las Cruces New Mexico (276 days 11 hours ago.)
in regards to "the sons of God" in the new testament. the reason we(born again christians) are refered to as "sons of god" is because of Jesus death, burial and ressurection(john 1:12), which did not happen in old testament times. No where in the old testament does the bible refer to humans as "the sons of G_d", only Angels were called that because of the indwelling holy spirit in them. Up untill Jesus giving us the holy spirit, In O.T. times the spirit of God only came upon man to empower him but did not dwell in him! Job 1:6 states that the sons of god presented themselves before the LORD! impossible for sinful man to do(for without holiness no one shall see God)! also, Daniel 3:25,states that Nebuchadnezzar looked in the fiery furnace and saw four men loose! and he goes on to describe the fourth one as "THE SON OF GOD"! I believe the Nephalim were the result of these Angels who kept not their first estate(jude 6) and daughters of men having sexual relations. the reason angels cannot marry(matthew22:30) is because God has given them that commandment as he gave adam and eve the commandment not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But they too left their first estate and decided to disobey God! and so the results are sinful man.without that option we cannot have a free will to choose.Remember how the 3 angels sat and ate with Abraham? spirits can't eat or drink water(genesis 18:8)!so whats to keep them from making a choice to have a daughter of man as a wife other than disobeyig the Lord and doing it.
(peace everyone!)
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (276 days 8 hours ago.)
I think what you're overlooking is that if there were these 1/2 human and 1/2 spirit beings who had the choice to sin (as they did) Jesus would have had to come and die for them as well becoming as they are as a 1/2 human and 1/2 spirit. But the Scripture is clear, "He came once to die". Not twice! That's how we know there aren't any aliens out there either, Jesus would've had to become a kinsmen redeemer for them too and go to their planet and die for them. Theologically that doesn't make sense. Also, if these 1/2 angels were good and then sinned then that means that angles still have the ability to turn. They were only given that oppertunity once. It was a one time shot. They can't continually make that choice. Why do people want so badly to think that angels can have sex or rape women? I'm glad that they can't, what a horrible thing to be possible. If I was a woman, this would cause me to fear and I think this is where this idea really comes from. I think it's been generated to bring fear and we know that fear is not of G-d but from the Enemy.
Shalom in Yeshua,
Rabbi Stanley
» left by julian from Las Cruces NM (276 days 5 hours ago.)
if the angels don't have a choice, how did 1/3 of the angels in heaven(way before jesus was born to die for our sins) chose to rebel against G_d Almighty and follow lucifer? Thats in the bible. In regards to your responce I have one question for you, Why did Jesus die for our sins and not the Angels who rebeled? Why is G_d so mindfull of Man? Anyways, back to the debate, maybe the rest of the angels that are still in heaven saw what G_d did to satan and his angels and great fear came upon them as it did to the early church in acts 5:11(Ananias & Sapphira). as for satan and his angels, they have limited power now. as far as the half angels being good, I think they were a very wicked nation thats why G_d had them wiped out of existence(giants). Thank You for your responce, hope to hear from you soon. Peace be with you. Julian Barrera
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (276 days 3 hours ago.)
you didn't read the post. I said it was a one time deal. Look, if you want to believe that angels have sex with people, be my guest.
Rabbi Stanley
» left by julian from las cruces new mexico (275 days 20 hours ago.)
can you then please explain why it was a one time deal? Can I read about it in the bible?
» left by julian from lc. nm. (275 days 18 hours ago.)
Theory One
1. The sons of God are the sons of Seth.
2. The daughters of men are the descendants of Cain.
3. The sin in view is the marriage of the holy to the unholy (see Deut. 7:1-6; Gen. 34:9; Josh. 23:12; 1 Kings 11:2; Ezra 9:14; and 2 Cor. 6:14-18).
4. The lines of evidence given to support this position are as follows: a) the concept of a holy line seems to have been established with the distinction made between the genealogy of Seth and that of Cain; and b) the sin of marriage of the holy to the unholy becomes a common theme throughout the Pentateuch.
5. But, there are some serious problems with this theory of two human lines: a) the term "sons of God" cannot be demonstrated to mean "the line of Seth", or a holy line of people, any place else in the Bible. b) There is no evidence that the lines of Cain and Seth remained totally separate. The theory also fails to account for the many other children Adam and Eve had besides Seth and Cain (Gen. 5:4). c) It cannot be demonstrated that God had begun working through only one line at this early period of history. d) The term for "men" used in this passage is general, with no demonstrated special meaning. There would have to be some evidence elsewhere in the Bible in order to legitimately narrow its meaning here to "Cain" or "the unredeemed". e) Finally, and most damning, is the underlying false theological presupposition, that a line of people could be wholly wicked, with no possibility of redemption. This smacks of both racism and salvation by works - neither of which is a biblical concept
» left by julian from lc. nm. (275 days 18 hours ago.)
Theory Two
1. The "sons of God" are dynastic rulers.
2. The "daughters of men" are commoners.
3. The sin in view is polygamy.
4. The evidence for this view is that magistrates or rulers
are often referred to as gods or the offspring of gods in the Ancient Near East (Note Ex. 21:6; 22:8-9; and Psalm 82:1, 6).
5. The problem with this second theory is twofold: one, kingship has not been expressed in any way in this passage or in the preceding, and two, Scripture does not consider kings to be the actual sons of a deity, nor does Scripture accept such designations as legitimate. One of the striking differences between the kings of Israel and the neighboring kings of other lands was that Israel's rulers didn't claim divinity
» left by julian from lc. nm. (275 days 18 hours ago.)
Theory Three
1. The "sons of God" are fallen angels.
2. The "daughters of men" are mortal women.
3. The sin in view is the marriage between supernatural and natural.
4. The evidence for this view is: a) "sons of God", in all other Old Testament passages, means "angels" (see Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Psalm 29:1; 89:7; Daniel 3:25); b) Jude 6-7, 1 Peter 3:19- 20, and 2 Peter 2:4-6 seem to refer to the incident as an interaction between fallen angels and people. Notice that Jude 7 reports that "in a similar way" to what happened before the flood, the people of Sodom perverted themselves (they also desired sex with angels: Genesis 19:5); and finally c) Jesus in Matthew 22:30 says that angels do not marry; he doesn't say they are incapable of sex; furthermore he is discussing the righteous angels, not the unrighteous demons (besides, the point of Christ's argument is that people will not marry in heaven - he is not intent on discussing the sexual habits of the angels).
5. The problems with this third theory are, one, that it gives a somewhat mythological tone to the story, and two, that there had not been a previous mention of angels in the narrative.
Personally, I believe neither of the objections to the third theory are convincing. The charge that it sounds mythological is hardly a valid reason for rejecting the interpretation, while the second one, that angels were not previously mentioned appears weak: after all, there is a first time for everything. I believe, therefore, that theory three has the strongest arguments in its favor, and it seems the most natural reading of the text.
» left by PinkWizdom from Brooklyn, NY (269 days 17 hours ago.)
The Sons of God WERE the Watchers/angels...they were pure & defiled themselves by having sex & marrying daughters of men...no mystery its self explanatory...the earth was destroyed by God because of this defilement..the Great Deluge... I wanted 2 address Garbeil from Jerusalme who stated U guyz were a bunch of fummies for thinking that the superior Angels would have sex with stupid humans...have u ever heard od beastiality...humans have sex with animals all the time...so why wouldnt the angels want 2 have sex with women they deemed beautiful 7 they were envious that man could have offspring & they coudn't because there were no female angels...all male...but one God created woman 4 man...they found them desirable! The Book of Enoch goes in2 detail about the Nephelim...no wonder this gospel was omiited from the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible..
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (269 days 16 hours ago.)
That's not why it was ommited, there were many other inaccuracies and problems with it. Again, if you want to think angles are having sex with people, be my guest. And also let me know what it was like when you were abducted by aliens. It really is that ridiculas.
Rabbi Stanley
» left by Pink Wizdom from Brooklyn, NY (269 days 14 hours ago.)
what's ridiculous is 2 say that the sons of God were righteous humans..not so ...all throughout the old testament when they referred to "Sons of God" they were always talking about Angels (how can the angels not have sex when that's exactly what the people of sodom & gomorrah were trying 2 do with them...strange flesh they called it...the men in this town were trying to have sex with the angels who were also male...Lot offered his daughters so that this type of defilement would not happen...again..the last time this happened God brought upon the Great Deluge ...the angels/watchers married daughters of men ...they also taught man things they had no business teaching us...metallurgy...astronomy, music, poetry, art ,science etc...they had offspring & the glitch is that they begot giants who were destructive, violent & had great appetites...it was not a natural union so therefore the offspring was not natural...they were half angel half human...2 types of DNA meshed & there came Giants (2 types of DNA created the Liger- a cross between a tiger & lion & it has charcteristics of both animals)...they were destroyed by God...they were killing eachother as well as eating man...God created man 2 habitate this earth...restore it, beautify it from when Lucifer rebelled against God 7 the earth began 2 decay & corrode...the giants had 2 be destroyed...but i beleive their DNA is still intertwined with ours...how do U explain alot of the NBA/NFL players who are 7 feet or more in height...what about the people who suffer from Giantism...the skeletal remains of Giants found in Asia or other continents as well as north america...how can u totally ignore what is so self explanatory ...The sons of God were able to speak 2 God directly & see him...Angels can accomplish this...man cannot!! ummm what do U think about the Annuanaki...did U ever read the book of Enki by Zeccharriah Sitchkin or his earth chronicles...what about all the artifacts found in Sumeria ..now present day iraq...just wanna hear your take on this particular version of our past...
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (269 days 14 hours ago.)
I've answered this already in my previous posts
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (269 days 14 hours ago.)
If angels could have sex with women then, they could do it now. Tell me, why aren't there any half angel half humans running around now? Or half demon half humans now? I could see the latter perhaps, we could call them the Democratic Party lol
» left by PinkWizdom from Brooklyn, NY (269 days 14 hours ago.)
oh another thing...Angels were the Sons of God...WE are the Sons/daughters of Adam...Adam was the only human considered to be a son of God...4 god created him directly from the dust of earth..the first man..then Eve from Adam not created in the same manor as Adam...Adam was very special...he hold exclusivity in the way he was created!!! & Eve created from the Rib of Adam...all the rest are born from Adam through conception...& ...
» left by Rabbi Stanley from Canada (269 days 14 hours ago.)
It's absurd, there's really nothing more to discuss on it. I've laid it out and all that's left is either to believe it, or not. If you want to believe in half humans, you can. You'll never convince me (or most other people) otherwise. You can believe in half zombies or vampires too and quote whichever writings you think fit. Still doesn't change anything, there's no such thing.
» left by PinkWizdom from Brooklyn, NY (269 days 13 hours ago.)
lol at the democratic party line... alot of things that were popping off in the bibical days are not happeining in modern times...& whose 2 say that they havent been having relations with humans in modern times...maybe they are not being distinguished by being Giants this time around but some other type of being mixed with human DNA...I don't know..there are many phenomenons out there...I've read things about Reptilians...i have read that alot of people in U.S Government are part reptilian like Old Man Bush...who claims he can turn in2 a lizard like creature....i don;t now...it soundz bizarre but i don't claim 2 know everything..i'm searching 4 answers like the rest of ya'll...I do know one thing I watched condoleeza Rice one day do a press conference & her eyes seem 2 morph in2 something retile like in front of my eyes & i was like what the- u know what...had 2 blink a couple of times...kept staring at her...something in her eyes show evil...so i do some research & that's how i found out about reptilians..& guess what they say she is one of them...I don't know...but there are definitely things out there that we cannot explain...& since man cannot explain these unknown thingsthey deem it science fiction..mythology...or a conspiracy! so many things, they are hidden from us...but i feel in time these things will b revealed...& slowwwwwly they are going 2 reveal things to the public through movies , tv shows etc...because they will release info through the entertainment media people will not view it as something that can possibly be true...humans can't fathom the idea that there might be something other than us humans dwelling on this earth...oh yeah the bible says who...Satan & legion of demons......Have U ever heard of Credo Mutwa??? the African Shamah...i now im going off the origina subject a little but I read his interview & saw it as well & he says some pretty wierd stuff...but i won't condemn what he says because i really don't know!
» left by Terry E. Rollins from Kannapolis, NC 28083 (248 days 14 hours ago.)
With all due respect sir: We are in the New Testament Church age where there are neither Jew nor Greek when coming to God by His plan of salvation. For you to not spell out "GOD" in your words as "respect" for Jews who might read this article; you are abusing an opportunity to witness to these lost souls with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. What a shame!!!
» left by Terry E. Rollins from Kannapolis, NC 28083 (248 days 14 hours ago.)
A study of scripture shows that God call no men "sons of God," other than Adam (LUKE 3), and the Lord Jesus Christ. Old Testament saints were not sons of God until the fruition of their faith was fulfilled through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. John 1, tells us that, "...to as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."
We know that the angels who left their first estate were condemned by God for unspeakable acts (possibly Gen. 6). The fallen angels are the demons and devils who inhabited the bodies of men in the Bible. Jesus himself delivered men and women from these demons. Mary Magdeline had seven devils removed by Jesus. It is not necessarily the physical act of sex by the demons, but the influence over the men they were able to inhabit, that possibly led to the wickedness that caused God to destroy the earth with a flood. These thoughts must not be expelled from the possibilities in Genesis 6.
» left by Eddie Clark (246 days 4 hours ago.)
The greatest of all conflicts presented throughout the Bible has to do with Satan's attempt to avoid his destruction. Gen 3:15 "And I will put enmity (a bitter attitude) between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel"(NIV). Satan's attempts represented by striking his heel represents temporary suffering of the Seed. The Seed however will destroy the head representing total destruction. This is the first prophetic utterance we read about in the Bible. As a young troublemaker as well as now, anytime I got into trouble and faced imminent punishment I always put together a plan to avoid said punishment. In Gen 3:15 Satan was told of the woman's Seed crushing the head of Satan and his works (Satan understands this completely). Knowing his ultimate punishment of destruction the only way to avoid this is to prevent the appearance of the Seed of the woman (Christ). The seed of Satan in this context had to propogate in some fashion. From the prophesy of 3:15 forward Satan interferes with the appearance of the Seed. Gen 6 records for us there were giants (Nephilim) in the days of Noah "and also after that" (after the days of Noah). When Abraham was announced the Nephilim (giants) had occupied Canaan prior to his arrival. Abraham's rescue of Lot the names recorded as Raiphaites (Raiphim) and Emites (Emim) in Gen 14:5, Deut 2:10,11)NIV. Famine attempts to destroy the chosen family (Gen 50:20). Destruction of the male line in Israel (Ex.1:10,15;2:5,Heb 11:23). Israel's destruction by Pharoh (Ex 14). Assault on David's line (2 Sam 7). Haman attempts total destruction of Jews during captivity (Esther 3:6,12,13). Josheph's fear (Matt 1:18-20). The irruptions of fallen angels (sons of God) in my view was part of the overall strategy by Satan to prevent the appearance of the Seed of the woman. Had Satan been successful then his doom woud have been averted.
» left by Anonymous (232 days ago.)
So where did these giants come from? Your article says nothing about the 36 foot human remains that archeologists have uncovered(which the government, media, and scientific community have gone to great lengths to keep concealed). Certainly giants of this magnitude would have to come from other giants to begin with. Here is something to consider. Nowhere in nature has there ever occured the mating of a female lion and a male tiger, or vise-versa. They have only bred through human intervention in laboratories. When the Dna was combined from these two creatures, a creature named by the scientific community as a lyger(half lion, half tiger) results. The average size of one of these as an adult is nine feet in length and 1000 lbs. (For those of you who don't belive me, you can check out the national geographic episode that was done on this). So we see that an anomoly occurs in nature outside of normal reproductive patterns to produce a giant morphism of two different creatures.
» left by Clive from Perth, Western Australia (216 days 21 hours ago.)
I can see a lot of energy being put into this topic line but there one very important thing to remember, the Nephalim were wiped out by the flood as was all other unrighteous beings and the world was restored to God's favour. The real scary thing was the fact that God "repented" from His creation of mankind and if it wasn't for Noah and God's eternal love and longsuffering of our human weaknesses, we would not be here today to witness and share this topic. But then again, there are some who dispute the great flood but then the point about the Nephalim is null and void because you can't have one without the other.
» left by Anonymous (170 days 6 hours ago.)
Based on this interesting article I wonder and also on tv shows or movies like "FALLEN" whether or not exist angels and demons on Earth? And, what would be the interpretation using the New and Old Testament? At the end, this will be a controvertial topic but I feel each of us should be able to make a decision in what to believe based on facts (Bible, original docs, history, new discoveries...)
Thanks,
Danny
» left by Ben from Aus (135 days 23 hours ago.)
Very interesting - I have read the Zacharia Sitchen earth chronicles but wish to rea dfuther before I make an active comment - cheers
» left by mavor from Portland (117 days 6 hours ago.)
Great article, Rabbi. Thanks! I agree with what you say - but wonder why Nephalim has to mean "giant" as well? Why not just that the offspring of Adam married the daughters of the rest of the world...
» left by Rabbi Stanley from India (116 days 19 hours ago.)
Shalom Mavor, Thank you for your post. Nephalim means "Giant" in Hebrew. I see your point, names don't always mean that's exactly what they are. But in this case and in this context, the passage seems to be making a point of the name. While performing hermeneutics, the art and or science of interpretation, we go by the best evidence presented to us. It's possible it is just telling us that men of G-d had fallen away, but by naming them, it presents that they were a race of larger sized men. But you may be right. What I've tried to do by writing this article is help any who have been misguided into thinking that demons can have sex with women or that some alien breed once existed. Those who are bent on believing that these type of thing exist, well for those, there's little help and I have no interest in helping those who don't care to learn. Again, thank you for your post. Blessings, Rabbi Stanley
» left by Ramoth from WA (66 days 8 hours ago.)
I'm convinced we have Nephilim among us, today. I know one personally, a friend at college, and he is certainly wired differently. Not in a bad way, as he speaks of unity and compassion among all people, regardless of race, creed or religion. Not in the usual superficial way we are taught such things, set on a backdrop of "tolerance" (I have to tolerate fruit flies in summer but I'd sooner swat 'em). It appears almost ingrained in his nature (natural), as though it is his very make-up. I guess this all makes sense when you consider the fact that this person is "biracial". (black mother, white father)
Could this "type" of human (far from angelic, in the biblical sense) be the Nephilim mentioned in biblical texts? When you consider the culturally divisive/separatist nature of many religions, it's not hard to appreciate why scribes might be reluctant to shine these individuals in a positive light.
» left by Gerald Thurtell(0) from South Africa (63 days 19 hours ago.)
I am very inerested in seeing the pictures that were spoken of this is a quote from :
Who were the Nephalim?
"If anyone is interested in who the Philistines were, I will soon be posting this and more information on my site. It's quite a study. ". I am doing a study on them, this info could help me in ways you will not believe!!!!!!!
» left by Anonymous (52 days 10 hours ago.)
you had a fine argument until you used the word "ridicules"
» left by Stanley Chester from India (52 days 2 hours ago.)
Yes, that's a spelling error. It should say ridiculous. To bad that's what hung you up.
» left by Anonymous (42 days 20 hours ago.)
Rabbi Stanley is correct in his interpretation. Sons of God refer to the line of favor (and by the time of Abraham - line of promise), which starts all the way back with Cain and Abel and carries through into Israel, Judah, etc. The book of Enoch is not and has not been considered canonical by Jews or Christians. And the 1 Cor 11 passage that someone mentioned was taken horrifically out of context. Paul's argument there is hierarchy - NOT SEXUALITY.
» left by R. Stanley from India (39 days 5 hours ago.)
I'm still working on the Philistine page. We just opened our second Yeshiva here in India and I'm heading to Sri Lanka next week to start another there but I will finish it asap.
Rabbi Stanley
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