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Got the Baquacil Blues?The easy way to change back to chlorine in your pool.

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Got the Baquacil Blues?
Here's the easy way to change back to chlorine in your pool.



Baquacil was a huge hit when introduced to the pool market in the late 1980's. While pricey, it gave pool owners the convenience and confidence of a "cook book" solution to the hit or miss job of pool care. If you followed the Baquacil recipe your time invested in keeping your pool water clean and ready was drastically reduced and water quality was rarely a problem. Sound too good to be true?



After a time word began to circulate that it was too good to be true. Too often after two or three years of using the product not only did water quality decline but some weird and unusual infestations took hold in pools on the Baquacil program. Don't misunderstand, Baquacil is safe and has all the proper approvals but as with other sanitizing systems things can go wrong. Unfortunately with the Baquacil system putting things right again usually involves draining the pool and starting fresh.



If this has happened to you and you've decided you want to switch back to good ole chlorine here's the simplest recipe I know to do it.



1. Shut off your pump and shock your pool with 2 lbs. of granular dichlor per 10,000 gallons. Prepare for a jolt because the pool will almost instantly develop a heavy and unsightly surface scum. This is supposed to happen.

2. Let the scum sit overnight. Next day the scum should be sitting on the bottom of the pool in a fine layer. At this point turn on your pump and set the filter to waste and vacuum the scum out of the pool. You will lose some water during this process.

3. Shut down the pump again and test your water with the Baquacil test kit. If it shows Baquacil still present shock the pool again as in step 1 but use 1 lb dichlor per 10,000 gallons. The scum may reappear but should be much lighter and easier to remove. Let the pool sit overnight, vacuum and retest.

4. If your test kit shows no Baquacil present you can refill the pool and restart on a chlorine program right away.



This program is virtually foolproof and is what the pool chemical manufacturers actually recommend. Instead of having your pool drained and out of service, not to mention the expense of refilling, you're up and swimming again in a couple of days.



VITALLY IMPORTANT-Never vacuum the scum into your filter or you will have to change your sand or replace your cartridge. Always vacuume to waste during this process. Baquacil is NOT compatible with chlorine products (that's why it scums up) and is extremely difficult to remove once introduced into a filter.



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» left by Alan from North Carolina (2 years 246 days ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
every one I have asked said Change the sand is this true.
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» left by Rob Dr Duck Coxworth (1,267) (2 years 178 days ago.)
I know this is way late in coming but I was just notified by the host. Changing the sand is necessary as part of a change over from Bacquacil to chlorine. Residual amounts of Baquacil will be in the sand and can cause problems. Changing the sand alone WILL NOT do the job. The best way I know to change back to chlorine is the procedure described in the article. Rob"Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Lee from Perry GA (2 years 186 days ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
This ARTILCE IS SO TRUE Baquacil is the worst thing you can use in a pool, I have had nothing but problems. The 1st year using the chemical was ok and after that in the 2nd year we spent more money than we should have ever spent on using the chemical. When In the end it will be cheaper and would have been cheaper to use just the regular cholrine. Beware of Baquacil if you have well water!!! It cause even more money. Chlorine is easier to maintain.
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» left by karen kasa (2 years 178 days ago.)
I really pray this will help us. We have a brand new pool andwell water. Our pool is extremely cloudy and we can not get it to clear up, no matter what we do. Hopefully, changing to chlorine will do the trick. Karen Kasa
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» left by Rob Dr Duck Coxworth (1,267) (2 years 178 days ago.)
Your might also try an iron filter on your pool fill water. Running your pool with a higher pH 7.6-8.0 might also help cloudiness caused by high mineral content.

Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by troy from Kentucky (2 years 127 days ago.)
Reader Rating: 4 out of 5
Followed step by step, however my water is green and I didn't see much scum. when I put in the dichlor it turned green and was like a cloud moving thru. So my question is how do I get my water clear again
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» left by Judy- from NC (165 days 3 hours ago.)
How did you get your water back to normal?

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» left by Fish from MD (1 year 178 days ago.)
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can calcium hypochlorite be used in place of dichlor???
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» left by Rob Dr Duck Coxworth (1,267) (1 year 177 days ago.)
Dear MD,

Calcium Hypochlorite will not work with this conversion. The chemical base, calcium, is different than dichlor which uses sodium as the carrier. Sodium is water soluble and calcium is not which will adversely affect the conversion and could lead to more problems.

Hope this helps.

Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
webfootleisure.com
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» left by Anonymous (1 year 165 days ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
I've been using Baquacil for 4 years . My Mom, about 20yrs continuous. No problems ... except for the cost, but now with the chlorine alternatives (Enjoy!) costing about $80+ a month it seems cheap !! - Tim R. Dighton, MA
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» left by Rob Dr Duck Coxworth (1,267) (1 year 165 days ago.)
Dear TIm,

Good to hear you've had no problems with the Baquacil program. This certainly isn't unusual. I wrote the article for people who run into trouble with the program.

Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Mark Noske from Maryland (1 year 152 days ago.)
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Wow! Just the info I was looking for! I'm an independant Pool Pro in Maryland. Have one, and only one, BQ pool that I service. Have converted 2 others over to CL2. What a mess, especially with DE filter! Your article should validate what I've been telling these clients for year after year after .........
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» left by Cara Smith from Jackson, GA (1 year 41 days ago.)
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Cara from GA.
I have used Baqucil for 7 years. Cloudy water, water mold, etc.-when I asked Rec. Warehouse about these problems they did not know what to do, just Flock and add more this and that. I will never Flock again. When my husband asked about the pink slime, REC warehouse had never heard of it. But when I contacted Baqucil they had a new product and the rep. was rather rude. So I told him it was to little to late. I'm going to clorine. What is dichlor? I was told to use bleach. They said the water would ture orange or rust, will this stain my plastic liner? I cannot tell you how great you site is when you have had to pull your hair out trying to correct the MANY BQ problems. It is a shame I had to go on the internet to get the info. that the BQ retailer should know. Thank you I give you 5 stars.
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» left by Leslie from Alabama (237 days 3 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
This has been amazing help! Last summer our pool stayed green after every rain and stayed cloudy most of the time from using Baquacil! We are now in the process of switching over to Chlorine! Thanks!!
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» left by Rob Dr Duck Coxworth (1,267) (235 days 2 hours ago.)
Glad you found the article useful. If you have further questions or issues contact me at Webfoot Leisure.com. I'm happy to assist and you don't have to buy anything. I won't complain, however, if you do.


Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Carrie from Las Vegas (208 days 6 hours ago.)
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Hi, I live in Las Vegas, and I have been using Baquacil since my daughter's naturally blonde hair turned green in chlorine....... chlorimines, I know. When we moved to a house with an inground pool, I converted it (13,000 gallons) to Baquacil. Granted there were growing pains and bad advice by a Leslie's employee lead to Baquacil giving me about 600.00 worth of free product. After adding this and that, like everyone said, Baquacil has FINALLY figured out that all you need to do is use their shock once a month with their oxidizer/shock (I refuse to use their CDX since it is 2ce as expensive!) and then a 1/4 dose once w/ the Oxidizer shock a week. I have been doing that and have continued to use the algeastat/sanitizer and I have been problem free. Their new test strips test for the oxidizer levels, and I will tell ya, they finally got it! As far as scum in the pipes..... what??? I have been using this stuff for 6 years. The only SCUM I get is in my spa that acts like a skimmer! lol! (those of you who have had salt water, know what I mean!) Which sucks! BUT I found a chemical you add that dissolves it out that is compatible with Baquacil. Okay, for the fumes? Yes, Those really BITE! THey are basically the chloramine version for Baquacil. SO you have to shock with their stuff once a month to keep it in check. Just like chlorine, you do have to do a partial water change every few years. My solution????? I am getting a UV sterilizer! This genius in Florida has come up with one for up to 50,000 gallons! It works on any size up to that. He said he would NEVER EVER use a bulb smaller than 4' since the kill time is not enough. You need to use 10% of what you normally would use in Baquacil OR chlorine, be that your poison. :P This all for under 2K!!!! HEalthier than those salt system which have TONS of bacteria! ewwww! I am not a sales person, just a mom who did a TON of research. AFter Hurricanes in Florida, they put these on pools, and with in 24 hours they were clear! Public pools need to have these, since not all kids "wipe" very well and that is why people get sick! EWwwwww! lol!!! (chlorine takes up to 48 hours to "kill" that bacteria, or should I say "suspend it" and the UV kills in within 2 hours! Thanks for this article! I am still figuring out what to do about the pool! :)
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» left by Lisa from Hamden Ct (183 days 5 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 4.5 out of 5
I finally was able to convert over from baquagooop to Chlorine! 20 bottles of 6percent chlorine bleach and 4 vacs to waste, and 10 backwashes. I only have a 10,000 gallon oval pool. The people who make baquacil should be in the unemployment line!!! Never Never Again!!!!!!

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» left by Mike from South Florida (167 days ago.)
Reader Rating: 4 out of 5
I am fighting with Baqual also. I think I am winning, and will let you know end of season, the fourth year on Baqualcil. Using the foculant and better algicide it cleaned up fast this year. I had to raise the water three inches after all the vacuming to waste, so I threw the hose in. This is about 8% of total water. Pool turned into milk. Is it clorine in the tap water causing all the problems? In South Florida I have to raise it an inch a week at times due to backwashing and evaporation and no rain. Am I on to something?

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» left by Anonymous (162 days 23 hours ago.)
Dear Mike, With so many possibilities and unknown factors it's hard to know what you might have discovered. It is certainly possible that a small amount of chlorine in the fill water could cause a reaction with Baquacil but not a sure thing. Generally a chlorine reaction from Baquacil is whitish yellow and "chunky" rather than milky but.................? Let me know if you have further questions. Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Debbie from Alabama (159 days 2 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
This is my second year with Baqucil...pool has been clear a total of 3 days. The water is clean but not CLEAR if that makes sense. I do everything Rec Warehouse recommends and nothing. My question is..should I wait till the end of this season to switch to chlorine or would it be any easier to do with start up next year.Also I 'm wondering about the salt water? Boy do I wish I had done some research before hand.
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» left by Debbie from Alabama (159 days ago.)
I have another question.I have a cartridge filter..I'm not sure what you mean by "set filter to waste" I guess your talking about a sand filter.How do I vacuum using a cartridge filter?
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» left by Anonymous (157 days 9 hours ago.)
Dear Debbie, Unfortunately cartridge filters don;t have the option to vacuum to waste. The only alternative is vacuum through the filter which will catch all the gunk. It should clean up with a good filter cleaner soak. It may take several rounds of vacuum, clean and soak to clear the pool. Good luck with this. Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Debbie from Alabama (157 days 9 hours ago.)
You kinda scare me when you say.."good luck with that"..is this something I shouldn't try to do?
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» left by Anonymous (157 days 8 hours ago.)
Dear Debbie, Scare you? Not at all. It's just that it could be a tedious messy process depending on how gunked your pool becomes during the treatment Not being able to vacuum to waste means that the junk created during the switch away from Baquacil has to go somewhere and out the waste gate is easiest. It could take a number of rounds of vacuuming and filter cleaning to remove everything. Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Anonymous (157 days 2 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
does the sand have to be changed or is backflushing enough?
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» left by Anonymous (156 days 5 hours ago.)
I am through with baquacil this season! I want to convert to chlorine. I just changed the sand in my filter at the opening of the season about a month ago. Will I have to change the sand again to get the baquacil out of it? Does anyone know how long it will take to convert? Should I wait until I close the pool in late September and just deal with the algae for the rest of the summer? HELP PLEASE!

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» left by from NEW YORK (152 days 6 hours ago.)
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I have a Question: I have a baquacil pool with hazy water and everwhere I read that if you clean your pool sand filter this will clear the water is this true??? Fact: This season I washed out the filter and put in all new sand backwashed and backwashed, the filter glass is clearand when backwashing and rinsing the water is dirty for about 30 seconds and then it's clear. Is there an EASY WAY to clean a sand filter on the baquacil system??? I need easy... Thanks

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» left by Rob Dr Duck Coxworth (1,267) (151 days 7 hours ago.)
Dear Jay, You cover a lot of ground and I hope I can address your questions properly. A sand filter is meant to get dirty! Retained fine particles actually improve the performance of the filter by improving its ability to trap smaller and smaller particles over time. Backwashing serves to get rid of the heavier stuff that will clog and retard water circulation. Bottom line, if it won't backwash out it should probably stay in to help filter. Baquacil relys on a chlorine incompatible algaecide to keep pools clean. The oxicizing of contaminants is handled by the weekly addition of a very strong hyuroben peroxide. The problem with this system is that the oxidation is insufficient and over time organic STUFF builds up in the pool both in suspension and solution. This can and often does cause hazy water and all to often eventually leads to some bizarre and unusual plant growth in pools. Having said all that the best advice I can give if you want to stay on Baquacil is to heavily shock your pool for several days and see if that will do the trick. What has to be done is oxidize all the junk in the water and it should come clean. Rob "Dr.Duck" Coxworth
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» left by Jim Douglas from Fort Worth, Texas (147 days 4 hours ago.)
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My sand filter is now running slow....meaning when I feel the return water flow in the pool it is not coming out as strong as usual. I think this is causing my baquacil to not "circulate" properly and the pool is staying cloudy. When I backwash the window shows clear water and the water flow returns to normal for 20 minutes and then slows down again. Any suggestions? Thanks so much. I can't wait to switch back to chlorine next year.

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» left by Craig (142 days 16 hours ago.)
You need to check your sand.  My filter did this and when I checked the sand it was as solid as concrete.  Took almost two day just to get all the sand out, using hammer and metal bar to break up sand.

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» left by Bruce from Ohio (140 days ago.)
Reader Rating: 3.5 out of 5
Hi...i too am using Baquacil...this is my third year and algae every year.
This year the worst.....If I change to chlorine....are there different types of chlorine?
How long will it take me to get blue water again  after changing sand and going to chlorine???
Just put in 4 gallons of oxidizer and 5 bottles of algacide and my pool is still green and I am frustrated
Thanks
Bruce

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» left by (139 days 22 hours ago.)
Can I convert to chlorine if my pool is still green???
 
Bruce

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» left by Chris from Grand Rapids, MI (137 days 9 hours ago.)
Am ready to convert to chlorine…
 
I am in my second year of a Baquacil, in-ground 18x36 liner pool. I think about 27,000 gallons of water. I use a sand filter. Built and opened in July 2007. Water was crystal clear for about 6 weeks back then and then turned hazy. Fought with it most of the end of August and into September and October. At the advice of my pool specialists, I used Floc a few times, added 2 gallons of Oxider every 3 or 4 days, did an initial dosing of Algecide, etc to try to get it clear. Didn’t come close and ended up closing the pool for the winter mid October (live in Grand Rapids, Michigan).
 
Opened the pool this year Memorial Day weekend. Water was a medium green color and could not see my drains in the deep end. Had water tested. Total Alkalinity is 125, Calcium Hardness is 225, PH 7.6, Copper 0, Iron 0. Pool specialist told me all levels were good so I added startup dose of Algecide, Oxidizer. After a three or four days, pool went from Green to Grayish to Very Hazy. Filter runs 24x7, backwashed when pressure in return lines was minimal. After 9 days pool got to Slightly Hazy (meaning I could see the drains now but barely). I was told to Floc it - which I did and vacuumed to waste. That seemed to make it more clearer but it was still very hazy. After about 2 weeks since opening I was told to add DE to the skimmer (??? – don’t remember if this is what is was but it was a white powder and I was told it was a filter aid). I did this. Here is where it gets weird and ended up clearing up very nicely. I am not sure what part did it but it cleared up. The day I added the DE (or whatever it was) the pressure in the sand filter went up from about 16 PSI (where it normally runs) to about 22 PSI. Pool specialist told me this was normal and to not backwash for 12 hours unless pressure goes up further when at that point to “bump” the filter lever to relieve a little bit of the pressure. That evening we had a tremendous downpour of rain, actually had 4+ inches in just over 2 hours. Needless to say, my water level rose up so I went to check the filter PSI. I was at 24 PSI so I decided to backwash: one - to relieve the pressure, two – to drain some water. I backwashed for about 3 or 4 minutes until water level was just over half way up the skimmer. Turned to filter and went back inside. I happened to look out at the pool about 4 hours later and noticed the water level way below the skimmer! Yikes! I went outside (mind you it was pouring rain again) and couldn’t see much since it was dark and decided to just shut the filter off for the night. The next day I went out and tried turning on the filter again. I had it set to Filter but could hear and see a trickle of water coming out of the backwash/waste line. I tried different filter settings and the Recirculate setting also had a trickle. I determined that the night before, while the setting was on Filter that the water slowly drained out to below the skimmer. I researched online and took the top off the Sandfilter and found that a rubber gasket was dislodged and not lined up. I lined it up and put it back together and turned it back on and voila, no leaks! In the meantime, I put my house hose into the pool to get water level back up. When I looked at the pool low-and-behold the water was crystal clear! So, a weird sequence of events but I was happy I got to clear water! That was about June 8th or so, 3 weeks after opening the pool.
 
Fast forward now to July 20th. Since June 8th I’d been maintaining Baqua Sanitizer level (between 40 and 50 ppm). I did weekly maintenance of 8 oz of Algecide and a ½ gallon of Oxidizer. Water temperature was between 78 and 81. Never needed to vacuum much as water was crystal clear. Two weeks ago we had air temperatures in the upper 80s, low 90s, high humidity for about a week straight. Pool water temperature went up to 86 or 87 (I stopped using the solar cover when the water temp hit 83). About 10 days ago the water started to get a wee bit hazy. I’d add a ½ gallon of Oxidizer and the next day no reading on my test strip. I added the full start up dose of 2 gallons, again, less than 24 hours and the reading was nothing. For the past 10 days I’ve been adding 2 gallons of Oxidizer every other day as every time I took a reading it showed zero. Keeping in mind that every day the water was getting more and more hazy. Baqua Sanitizer still between 40 and 50 ppm. About a week ago I did an initial start up dose of Algaecide even though there was no visible signs of algae growth. Yesterday I went to my pool specialist to get more Oxidizer and we got to talking about my scenario. He told me to add 3 pounds of a non-chlorine granular shock (from Poollife) before I add the Baquacil Oxidizer. I did that last night and this morning when I woke up, BAM – pool is no longer hazy but GREEN! I just went out this morning and added another full initial start-up dose of Algaecide and dumped in the two gallons of Oxidizer to see if that will do anything.
 
Here is my question and dilemma. I have a big party on August 16th, 3 weeks from now. I am leaving for a 10-day vacation 9 days from now. I’ll return to my home on August 10th or 11th. I am ready and willing and wanting to convert to Chlorine. Should I do it now knowing I have to leave for vacation on July 19th (9 days from now)? Should I wait and keep throwing Oxidizer and Algeacide (and money) at the pool hoping it clears? Should I wait and convert on August 10th when I return?

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» left by Anonymous (132 days 8 hours ago.)
Sorry about the tardiness of my replyl.  I was not notified until 7/24 that you had left a message.

The general problem with Baquacil is that the oxidizer used is hydorgen peroxide.  While an excellent oxidizer it is GONE right away and leaves no residual unlike chlorine.  This leaves the Baquacil algaecide to carry the load alone which sooner or later leads to problems.

I suspect your pool will be pretty ugly when you return from vacation so I would do the switch to chlorine at that time.  Remember to vacuum the scum to waste!

Rob "Dr. Duck" Coxworth

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» left by Carrie from Las Vegas (125 days 2 hours ago.)
HI,

Well, after submitting to using CDX, I have had much clearer water as that keep the baquacil oxidizer in solution.  Well, due to money issues, I have decided to switch to chlorine.  BEFORE I read how to do it, the guy at Leslies told me to do a non-chlorine shock and said it would turn green, but that would help to kill the baquacil level... It didn't.  I am going to use your method now as my daughter walks out the door to pick it up.  I took out my DE grids and hosed them off.  WHAT do I use to get any baquacil residue off, OR should I spend 300.00 and replace all my girds.  PS:  Is DE a carcinogen?

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» left by Anonymous (119 days ago.)
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Baquacil does have a bad rap for water mold BUT what most people do not realize is that water mold can be formed just as easily as algae. When a chlorine reading drops below 1 algae starts to form. With Baquacil, when the Oxidizer and Sanitizer reading drop to zero and stays or that reading is constantly fluctuating, along with heat, a bacteria called water mold is formed. The best rememdy for getting rid of water mold is to add the Water Clarifier to the skimmer with the filter running, add the Flocculant as a filter aide, let filter for 8-12 hrs, vaccum to waste and chemically clean the filter. The most important step is to chemically clean te filter because the other steps will clear the pool but the water mold will trap itself in the filter and go right back into the water.

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» left by Anonymous (80 days 7 hours ago.)
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I've been fighting the pink slime and cloudy water for a couple of years now and am switching to chlorine. The water is so cloudy (milky) now that I can't see the bottom. My concern is that if add the dichlor, I won't be able to see the bottom properly to vacuum out the resulting scum. Will the particles causing the milkiness also settle (or go away)? I have had my pump off for a week now and whatever is causing the cloudy water is not settling.

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» left by Anonymous (63 days 3 hours ago.)
I'll answer my own question. No. Water stayed cloudy for at least a week, then it settled. Other than that, seems to work. Am looking forward to clear water with chlorine next year season. Also, I just used 1 Gal of shock as a substitute for each unit of dichlor. Same stuff, just in liquid form and only about 60% of the price.

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