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Religion and Politics Don't Mix - Just ask Henry the 8th!

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Religion and Politics do not mix for the simple reason that it can get in the way of what people want and if the state is listening to what people want and legislating accordingly then clearly religion is something that in these modern times has no place in Politics.

People want to live in 'sin' ie together without marriage,  multiple sexual partners and so on.

Meanwhile, which religion's rules should be applied or adopted, whose God should be worshipped?

Athiests believe in one less God than most religious people and yet they are looked down upon by those who deny all Gods except their own. Most religions as far as I can tell have similar moral codes, thus these are pretty much societal norms and any decent government is wise to heed them regardless of whether these codes are promoted under the umbrella of religion or not.

We all agree 'thou shalt not kill'
We all agree 'thou shalt honour they mother and father' and so on.

There is a lot of common ground there. This is where the emphasis should be rather than on any individual religion. Also settling for any specific religion would alienate much of the voting public and so not the wisest move for any wanabee candidate. Atheism is growing as are alternative religions. Selecting one above others to represent a Political view point could lead to accusations of discrimination.

Candidates who are religious would be wise to try not to let their beliefs affect their decision making. For example, should a Catholic Prime Minister/President decide to make abortion illegal the ramifications would be far reaching, despite the fact many of us believe this is immoral whether we be religious or not, we cannot legislate on a 'belief' when there are 'real life' factors which require serious consideration before any decision is made.

There are countries today that have Political systems based on religious beliefs, consider Sharia law in some Arab countries. Is this really the way we want to go?


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» left by Anonymous (357 days 12 hours ago.)
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I believe a lot of these atheist are closer to god than many who belong to established religions. Moral and ethical behavior is what is important in society today. My belief anyway

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» left by David Tanguay (8,949)
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(357 days 12 hours ago.)

I'm the anonymous above, I forgot to log in.

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» left by creative blogger (357 days 2 hours ago.)
Hi David thanks for your comment



As you know  doing right because you feel in your heart it is the right
thing to do is very different to doing right because you fear going to
hell. That said, anything which facilitates doing 'right' is no bad
thing unless the rules you agree to follow are out of date or just
plain wrong to begin with. Without the ability to discriminate from
right and wrong yourself, things can go very awry.




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» left by Leah (13,000)
Leah
(357 days 2 hours ago.)

You are in good company, I also forgot to log in! :)
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» left by Dan Bimrose (1,376)
Dan Bimrose
(356 days 23 hours ago.)

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Maintaining seperation of church and state is essential to maintaining a free society. I still marvel at people who think otherwise. Great article. Thanks for speaking out.

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» left by Leah (13,000)
Leah
(356 days 22 hours ago.)

Thanks Dan, glad you liked the article.

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» left by Rev M Bresciani (1,645)
Rev M Bresciani
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The first amendment says nothing about the separation of church and state. Read it!

Rev Michael Bresciani

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» left by Leah (13,000)
Leah
(354 days 19 hours ago.)

I am not American, but a look at Wikipedia re first amendment says the following:
The First Amendment to the US constitution is a part of the US Bill of rights that expressly prohibits the US Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" (the Establishment clause) or that prohibit free exercise of religion (the free exercise clause), etc
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» left by Leah (13,000)
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Continued response to the Rev.

The establishment clause is:
"The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1) the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the preference of one religion over another or the support of a religious idea with no identifiable secular purpose. The first approach is called the "separationist" or "no aid" interpretation, while the second approach is called the "non-preferentialist" or "accommodationist" interpretation. In separationist interpretation, the clause prohibits Congress from aiding religion in any way even if such aid is made without regard to denomination. "

According to wiki.
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» left by Anonymous (354 days ago.)
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Wiki's good but it ain't no constitution!

Rev MB

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» left by Roschelle Nelson (323)
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Good article Leah. Writing is a freedom of expression, ideas and feelings; this piece is very thought provoking. Good Work. Kudos!!!!

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» left by Leah (13,000)
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(350 days 15 hours ago.)

Thanks Roschelle, glad you liked it. Debate is pretty healthy too! :)
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» left by Jane Bullard (2,076)
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Hi Leah - I saw this article a while back but did not have much time then...so this is a bit late. I think the issues around politics-religion are so complicated that it is tempting to give up. The situation - and that's the key word, or context - of Henry VIII had to do with a Church mandated by the State. The Church had become a religious and political entity, with pressure points going back and forth between it and the king. The king used the church, and vice-versa. That kind of situation, where a leader or ruler could stranglehold the church or the church could try to do the same in reverse, is what the American founders strongly sought to avoid; they knew the persecutions that came out of any disagreement by a religious leader toward the king. Hence, beheadings and hangings and such.
 
Any society not influenced by religion or not having freedom of religion, such as former USSR, shows the effects. Without a belief in God, there is no basis for morals or ethics, which come from distinctions of good/bad. If there is a "higher good" ...from whom/where do moral or ethical distinctions come etc? Most of these interesting and important distinctions are very hard to express...so I'll stop there. Glad you opened up the discussion.
~ Jane

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» left by Leah (13,000)
Leah
(342 days 19 hours ago.)

Hi Jane, thanks for the comments. I have to disagree you with regard to religion being the foundation of all things good and moral. There were good and moral people long before religion and there still are. The prisons aren't full of atheists afterall.

I am not anti religion and I do believe in God but I know many who do not and they are VERY good people and certainly better than some religious folk I know who despite praying regularly have very black hearts.

People are good and bad at the end of the day and have a dose of each in variable measure, some based on nature and some on nurture. But one thing we can be sure of and that is that religion doesn't make people good.

I don't know about Russia but there are many largely atheist European countries that have the best education, best health care and lowest crime rates in the world, so again, religion would not appear to be a necessary influence in good government.





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» left by Jane Bullard (342 days 9 hours ago.)
Hi, Leah - thanks for your response. One of many things I like about Searchwarp is the dialog that goes on. I look forward to reading your next article.
Have a good rest-of-the-weekend! ~Jane

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» left by creativeblogger (339 days 20 hours ago.)
I just did a quick Google and in 2000 there were more theist than atheist prisoners, and most the theists were C of E followed by Roman Catholic. Smaller % re the other religions, very much smaller.

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