Is John McCain Insane? Torture, Suicide Attempt and PTSD

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» left by Kii Kynzer ⁽⁴⁹⁸⁾ (1 year 93 days ago.)

Normally my comment would be positive, but this article borders on slander. There has never been any proof that McCain had or has ever had PTSD. My two uncles served under severe WWII combat and horrors, and they came back as they left, only wiser to the Hitler deception of Nazism. This is surprising that anyone who did not have proof of such a medical condition would make such an accusation. Never in my wildest thoughts would I malign Obama or McCain with false information to benefit the other politically.

 

If there is proof, then please present it, otherwise you have stooped too low.

 

Kii

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» left by Mark Parsec ^(15,071)
Mark Parsec (1 year 93 days ago.)

Thank you for your comment, Kii. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that you understand the rating system at SearchWarp or the nature of PTSD. Further input on your comprehensive understanding of PTSD would reinforce your argument. Incidentally, the evidence that you said was missing was referenced in the article and is straight from the U.S. Verteran Dispatch. You may want to click on the link to ascertain the facts for yourself.

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» left by Kii Kynzer ⁽⁴⁹⁸⁾ (1 year 93 days ago.)

 Yes, I read the article, but found it to be more opinion than fact.  You and I both know that McCain released his medical records. You see, as a former Criminal Justice Instructor at a local community college, this was addressed under mental illnesses for criminals, and taught by me years ago.  It is covered briefly in James A. Inciardi Textbooks like CRIMINAL JUSTICE Seventh Edition, and other texts that  had more detail.

 

 Neither candidate is in agreement with my political beliefs, but there is a place we should not go.  Neither Obama nor McCain is mentally ill, which is  the category of PTSD.  Both are able to be in public, do speeches and interact normally with others.  True PTSD sufferers avoid public interaction unless necessary, and are not always suicidal.  PTSD does not always show up its total strength immediately, but would have been obvious usually within three years of the events that caused it.

 

 McCains stressful campaign has proven him to be normal so far, if he freaks out maybe you can say this.  Slander is nothing more than an unestablished truth, that maligns someone unfairly. In Crime, The McNaughten Rule (similar to Durham Rule) says the accused did not know right from wrong at the time of the crime, and is therefore not responsible for their actions.  The PTSD defense is similar, and has helped many Vietnam Vets in defense of their violent actions.  

 

 Anxiety at what those people were saying at those hearings probably caused McCain  to act what looked like irrational. Obviously he felt there were lies being told, and I wasn't there so it would be ignorant of me to judge either side.  The ultimate sacrifice of one's life to keep other Americans free should not be taken lightly.  Jesus was angry enough to 'turn over the tables of the moneychangers in the temple', and he wasn't PTSD.  All of us get angry at injustice, and statements or actions that offend us.  

 

It is possible that I don't understand the rating system, and will look that up.  However, facts are not articles by other vets, only a psychiatrist or psychologist can diagnose and treat PTSD.  We have categorized and labeled everyone unitl it has made many of us wonder what is being taught in the colleges today.  Many wonderful doctors are treating those who have become victims of war, and to them kudos for their hard work.  If I offended you, my apologies. 

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» left by Mark Parsec ^(15,071)
Mark Parsec (1 year 93 days ago.)

Kii, I appreciate you taking the time to elaborate upon your point of view on this controversial opinion. You may note that I never said that John McCain was diagnosed with PTSD. I only alluded to the fact that he very well could have PTSD.

 

I have never worked in the Criminal Justice System. However, I do not think this is a question of criminal justice. I have worked as a Veterans Service Representative, however, and assisted veterans in the process of determining their eligibility for PTSD and have seen their conditions time and again. I find it highly unlikely that anyone, let alone John McCain, could have endured such torture without there being some long term detrimental effects to his mental health.

 

Regarding his anxiety about what individuals were saying in reference to the MIAs, that may not be a very good excuse. As President of the United States I can guarantee that he would experience much more intense situations.

 

No offense taken at the content of your comments. I believe  people should freely express their opinions and be able to debate in a civil manner. How else shall we learn? I was, however, disappointed in the rating because the rating has nothing to do with opinion, but with grammar, format, content, etc. But, no harm done.

 

I respect your point of view and appreciate your comments. God bless you.

 

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» left by Anonymous (1 year 93 days ago.)

Thank you for the link Mark! I do not see where you have slandered any party. Thank you for the link regarding McCain's diagnosis on PTSD. I am sorry that the person above missed it. Blesings

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» left by Anonymous (1 year 93 days ago.)

In answer to: "However, I do not think this is a question of criminal justice."

 

Let me respond one last time to the above comment. It is important to understand that all Criminal Justice majors must take several Psychology classes equating to almost a minor in Psychology, as a requirement. The reason is that many criminals have a mental problem or personality disorder, as is the case with many Vietnam Vets with PTSD. Murder and Assault are the most obvious, so understanding all of the mental illnesses, and disorders are a requirement. Therefore, when teaching CJ, it is part of the curriculum.   My explanation went to the core of your original comment that "my comprehensive understanding needed more input".to show my understanding of PTSD.   All areas of crime are affected by psychology, so it is very relevant. Blessings to you also.

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» left by Mark Parsec ^(15,071)
Mark Parsec (1 year 93 days ago.)

My apologies if you felt I was slighting you. That was not my intention. What I was suggesting is that the article is not related to a criminal justice matter. I am not inferring in the article, nor in my comments, that anyone has broken the law here.

 

This does leave me with the impression that perhaps our different backgrounds reflect our different ways of looking at the same condition.

 

But, you know, I was reflecting upon your reference to Jesus turning the money changers' tables. You are right, there is such a thing as righteous indignation. However, I do not believe that is the case with John McCain.

 

Incidentally, there has not been a "full" disclosure on John McCain's medical records to the best of my knowledge. Although, a partial disclosure was made to the public recently.

 

Having worked with veterans that have been diagnosed with PTSD, I am fully aware that there are many cases that remain undiagnosed for years, even decades, before the trigger causes them to snap. One of my biggest concerns pertaining to McCain is his period of "fantasies" which he described during his terrible torture. This is classic disassociative behavior and is clearly linked with PTSD.

 

I would imagine that if my Father was a famous Admiral in the Navy that my medical records would look pretty squeeky clean if he had any political ambitions for me.

 

I am curious, have you worked with people who have PTSD?

 

 

 

 

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» left by Jane Bullard (1 year 62 days ago.)

Mark - I believe that most people of whatever part or political views would not judge rumored thoughts or efforts of any candidate or party. Senator McCain's service record stands. Most of his political opponents agree that under extreme and severe hardship and suffering, Senator McCain went far far beyond anything most people on the earth can begin to imagine, much less bear.

What you have heard or read sounds like wolfish rumors dressed in sheepish clothing referring to events over 20 years ago under unimaginable suffering. 

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» left by Mark Parsec ^(15,071)
Mark Parsec (1 year 62 days ago.)

Jane, I am not discrediting the honorable service that John McCain has demonstrated and I absolutely agree that his suffering must have been unimaginable. However, as a veteran who has worked with many veterans of many wars and seen first hand the effects of PTSD upon POWs and others, I believe it is imperative that we do not turn a blind eye to the possible consequences of this trauma upon the psyche of those we place in positions of trust.

 

This issue becomes even more of a concern when one considers the long-term side effects of torture and programming of the human mind. Deep seated psychological suggestions may have been implanted that could be triggered by key phrases or events. It is possible that most anyone experiencing the intense programming that Senator McCain endured would be subject not only to unexpected mental breakdowns but could also be easily manipulated psychologically (even after this many years) by a foreign entity who is privy to the art of mind control.

 

Can we afford to take that chance?

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