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All you wanted to do was buy a book or some other item on the Internet. You see a great price, and you jump on it. Then the deal gets sweeter, as you compare prices, using one of those price comparison sites. Along with the deep discount, you're getting free shipping too, and that's because you are a first-time buyer. Yes! Unlike your less informed peers, you are that tech savvy online shopper that pays $6 for a $19 book.

Perhaps you decided to to the transaction at Amazon dot com, or Hot Book Sale dot com, or another site, where Smart Savings Center lurks behind the screen. Approximately 8 days or more after the deal, you'll be sounding like one of these folks who got ripped off by Smart Savings Center, not to mention me and my wife who fell victim to Smart Savings Center's sneaky scheme.

If you want to read the complaints of others who have been ripped off like this, just type into your browser's search box the words, "smart savings center scam" or something like that (without the quotation marks).

I read of one victim whose membership fee was later increased from $9.99 per month to $14.95. This person was charged for several months; he reported his experience to the Complaints Board. Another lady, charged $12.95 per month, thought the fee came from her credit card company. Months later she called to be sure, and the credit card issuer referred her to a purchase she had made on Amazon dot com; it was for an XBox. Smart Savings Center had signed her up automatically.

For my wife and me, Smart Savings Center charged each of us $29.95 for the membership we didn't know about. My charge appeared on January 12, even before they have posted the charge for the book that I actually bought from a different website that was not called Smart Savings dot whatever.

Have you noticed that Smart Savings Center charges different amounts to different victims? That first victim mentioned above was charged $9.95 per month. The next person was charged $12.95. I was charged $29.95. They may be charging the victim based on his or her credit score, or something odd like that. If I'm right, then the higher your credit score, the more Smart Savings Center will take from you.

Then I found out that they sent me a Welcome Email after my purchase. That email instructed me to cancel my membership within 7 days, or be charged the first one-month membership fee.

"What membership?" I asked out loud. "I just wanted to buy a book at a good price, not join a savings club!"

I called the toll-free number, 1-800-511-6538, two days in a roll, and get the same recording over and again. Each time the machine tells me I'm caller #4 or #11. Seconds later, I am caller #1, "waiting to speak with a customer service representative". OK, I'm eager to speak with a customer representative. That's when I hear that the volume of call is high, and I can press 1 to leave a voice message to be called back. Dead end. Time wasted.

Next, I call my bank to report the fraudulent charge, telling the lady on the line that I had used my debit card to purchase a book online, but was charged a membership fee, while the charge for the book has not yet shown up on my online transaction record. The bank lady instructs me to open a dispute by writing and faxing a letter to the Dispute Department. In the letter, I should include my contact information plus phone number. I must also mention my debit card number, transaction date, amount of the charge, reason for the dispute, and my signature.

The reason for this letter to the bank is to reverse the current Smart Savings Center $29.95 charge. It will take at least 10 business days after the bank receives my letter to process the dispute.

I signed in to my forced Smart Savings account. At the bottom of the page, I click on Support to submit a Support Ticket, asking them to refund my money and that of my wife's. We'll probably have to do a separate Support Ticket for my wife, using her Smart Savings Center account.

In reply to the Support Ticket, I get an auto response from Smart Savings Center, saying they'll address my issue in 3 business days.

Learning from another victim's complaint, I return to the Support page of Smart Savings Center. On the left panel, I click Cancel Membership. This is necessary to prevent future charges. I receive another auto email that says my membership has been canceled. I remain hopeful that Smart Savings Center will not charge me again.

Important: If you buy anything online and receive a Welcome Email from Smart Savings Center, find your login ID, and us it to log in to your account. Then proceed to the Support link and use the Cancel Membership tab as discussed above to cancel your forced membership with these crooks before the 7 days of free membership are over .

Geez! And I thought I just wanted to buy a book! It's businesses like these that will make people gun-shy about shopping online, especially if such dubious businesses are using supposedly reputable sites like Amazon dot com to dig their dirt. Based on this experience, there's no way I'm buying anything from Amazon, unless I learn otherwise. Unless Amazon dot com cuts all ties with Smart Savings Center, consumers can't help but conclude that the two entities are in cahoot.

PS: Just to emphasize how determined these thieves are, on March 27, 2009, I received this email from Smart Savings Center, which continues to charge my account a $1 monthly membership fee, regardless of the fact that I asked them over 2 months ago to cancel my membership, and they replied to confirm the account had been canceled:

"Our goal is to ensure you have the best discounts on 1,000's of brand name
products and services. We strive to provide the highest level of quality and
customer service. We've continued to meet and exceed the expectations of our members thanks to great customers like you. Effective immediately, your $1 Program membership will increase from $1.00 monthly to $1.00 semimonthly. We wish to thank you for your
valued account and know that you will understand the necessity for this price
increase. If you have any questions regarding this increase or any other matters, please
feel free to contact us by sending a Support Ticket at http://www.smartsavingscenter.com/esg/support_ticket.aspx. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you!"

I emailed them this reply: "It's been at least 2 months ago since I asked Smart Savings Center to cancel my membership. But you continue to charge me your $1 monthly fee. And now you want to increase it to $2 per month? Please stop stealing my money. CANCEL MY MEMBERSHIP IMMEDIATELY. I do not need or want your service, so stop charging me every month for service I do not use or need. Thank you."


Mogama holds a Master of Divinity. He is a minister; author; life coach; freelance article writer; freelance blogger; manager of debtfreedomclub.com and mogama.info

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» left by Anonymous (358 days 10 hours ago.)
hello, I too got scammed trying to save some money on textbooks on 1/12/09. I canceled my "membership" on 1/13/09 after I realized from the email that they sent to me that I had become a member. I was never charged the 29.00 fee but, there are now two charges of $1 each to my credit card, one from 1/12 and another on 1/17! after I thought I had canceled. I called them today to see why I was still being charged and they told me I had to both cancel over the phone and on line as you did. My point being, if I were you I would try to call them and cancel over the phone as well and get cancellation number. I too hope that there are no more mystery charges, because I really don't want to cancel my credit card as my bank is telling me. Good luck!
 
Crista Y.

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(358 days 8 hours ago.)

I envy you, Crista, because you actually reached them by phone! Wow! That's an achievement you should be proud of, because I never could get anyone on the phone. Good thing is they have finally refunded the membership fee, and I have contacted my bank to block any future charges from these crooks. I'm watching to see if they've still got a rabbit in their hat, in which case I may consider unleashing a Pitt Bull on them. Thanks for sharing your experience; it helps. ~mogama~
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» left by Anonymous (356 days 15 hours ago.)
We had this happene, however we canceled the account prior to the 7 days and have been charge $1 for the two month since. We called after the first $1 charge and they said they canceled the account--even have a cancelation email. And now we have another charge. Have tried to contact the company and they will "call us back". Have contacted the bank to open a dispute.

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(356 days 13 hours ago.)

Sorry about your trouble. It'll be great when the authorities shut down Smart Savings Center. This is not a business; it's a scam. ~mogama~
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» left by Anonymous (351 days 17 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
I've had the same problems everyone else has. Luckily I caught the $1 charge before the 7 day membership was over. I canceled online AND I canceled on the phone and got a cancellation number from the customer service rep.
 
HOWEVER... I had to insist on talking to a customer service rep. They kept asking me if someone could call me back because of the high amount of callers. I repeatedly had to say that they CANNOT call me back, and that I would wait on the phone until a customer service rep was available.
 
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION IMMEDIATELY AND GET A CANCELLATION CONFIRMATION NUMBER AS WELL AS CANCELING ONLINE!

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(329 days 11 hours ago.)

Good for you for being so brutal on the scam artists! ~mogama~
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» left by Julie from Scranton, PA (329 days 12 hours ago.)
Fought with them, got our money back ( you must insist) We filed a report with the Better Business Bureau in West Palm Beach FL - I would suggest you do the same.

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(329 days 10 hours ago.)

With determined actions like yours, it is possible we can shut down some of the Internet scammers. Thanks for doing your part. ~mogama~
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» left by Anonymous (318 days 13 hours ago.)
you people are ignorant....read disclosure and terms and agreement....it is on there!

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(318 days 7 hours ago.)

Oh, dear intelligent one! I guess it's also in the agreement to keep charging me the monthly $1 fee even after Smart Savings Center has confirmed canceling my account, ahn? These guys are crooks, and I hope the authorities will do their job to shut down this scam, so the world can have one less bunch of thieves on the Internet. ~mogama~

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» left by Brian K. Dube from East Waterboro, Maine (311 days 16 hours ago.)
Anonymous, How long have you been on Smart Savings payroll ?? I went back and nowhere does it mention a monetary fee amount of any such kind. Why does the credit card charge change per individual as Mogama says ?  My rip off was 29.95. You make me sick. Next time,  get a name. 
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» left by Ron from OKC (305 days 16 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 4.5 out of 5
I wish I had seen these comment sooner! I have been fighting with smart savings for over 2 weeks all over a damn $5.00 DVD that they was trying to charge me $19.95 for membership and $1.00 a month! I got my cancellation numbers and now looks like I am going to cancel my card!

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(305 days 12 hours ago.)

Hopefully you won't lose any money to these scam artists. ~mogama~
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» left by Anonymous (304 days 9 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 4 out of 5
I too have been a victim of Smart Savings Center. I ordered a simple book online and they began charging my credit card. I got the same phone run around and eventually filed a complaint with the Florida Attorney General's office. I received the paperwork today with a cover letter saying the office is conducting an investigation into the company pursuant to Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act. I really wish every victim would file an online complaint to Florida's AG office.

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(303 days 21 hours ago.)

I applaud you for taking the bold action of filing a complaint with the attorney general's office. You could help put these guys out of business. Thanks for the move, and I wish you success. ~mogama~
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» left by Anonymous (162 days 17 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
I too have been scammed by this company, somehow they stole my name, billing address, and debit card info.   They sent me a Billy Blanks Taebo video (which I did not order, nor had ever heard of the company), then began charging my card $19.95, then $7.26, then another $19.95.  I contacted them to no avail and they would not cancel my membership, and simply stated contact your credit card company.

 I have filed with the washington attorney general and the internet crime authority ic3.gov.



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» left by Heather Hughes from Sidney Ohio (152 days 6 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
I also have been scammed by this company. Not long ago actually Friday to be exact. I had purchased a Dvd from Hot move sale. It was a great deal so I figured wow, okay. I purchased it and didn't find anything out of the ordinary. I never gotten E-mail's telling me I was even signed up for a membership. Hell I got 3 kids and bills, I don't have Money to afford a Membership. I did in fact get a E mail from Smart's Saving Center just to let me know I was awarded to receive 2 free dvds only be charged Shipping for being a wonderful Customer and first time buyer on hot movie sale. I did in fact go for that cause I didn't at the time thought it was fishy plus I had ordered from Hot Movie Sale and I didn't think anything about it. Well Friday 8/14/09 that Evening.. I had added exactly 20 on my cc but I had over drawn 4 something which I knew I had.. and It left me with exactly 14.70. I was using that money to pay a bill on line for my own personal use.
 
Well I found it and was Submit to buying it when It wouldn't let me. So I go on my cc site and notice exactly 20.95 was took from my cc from Smart Saving Center. Which over Drawn another 6.25 I was very mad , since I had no idea why they took out. When I realized they had charged me for a Membership fee. And I even filed a complaint with a fraud over the internet on them. I also , am filing a dispute on them with my cc company. I think this is so sad they do this too so many innocent people for no reason. And I have notice everyone is being charged differently. I wish I had known this sooner I would of never ever bought anything from that site. They should be stopped!.

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(151 days 6 hours ago.)

I'm so sorry, Heather, for all the headache these crooks have put you through. Hopefully, this open discussion we're having here will help to put them out of business, or get the authorities to shut them down. That's our desire. I hope you get some of your money back, or don't lose any more money because of these fraudsters. ~mogama~

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» left by scamming the scammers from st. pete, fl (143 days 17 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
if you were smart, after ANY online purchase, get a new bank card!!! a new # means no unexpected charges because they wont have the new #!! ive learned this from dealing with smart savings center and other scamming scammers like them... so et your books for cheap and scam them :)

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(143 days 5 hours ago.)

Won't that result in lots of new numbers? And at what point will your bank start charging you for each new card? I guess that's better than losing money to crooks... Fighting fire with fire and beating the scammers at their own game... Good for you, my friend. ~mogama~

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» left by ShawnMarie from Arkansas (134 days 14 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
All I did was buy a book too. I told them within four days that I did not want the membership. I luckily used a prepaid visa so I add just enough to cover what bill I need to pay. They have tried to charge me $19.95 on 08/30, 08/31, 09/01, and now today 09/03. Of course it was declined because I didn't have any money on the card. I use the same login information on everything so I don't forget. I tried to login to cancel the membership again and it said it was an invalid login. They don't even have me as a member yet they have tried charging me in the last four days. I sent a very irate email to them to stop trying to charge me. Lets hope it works otherwise I will have find out my next step.

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» left by Victim from NYC (119 days 8 hours ago.)
I've been charged by 19.99 by these jerks. Is there any possibility that I could get my money back?

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» left by Anonymous (96 days 8 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
I too was charged $19.95 by these crooks. PLEASE FILE AN ONLINE COMPLAINT WITH THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL. Here is the address for Smart Savings Center
 
999 W. Yamato Road Suite 100
 
Boca Raton, FL 33431
 
Phone 561-989-7400
 
Palm Beach County Florida
 
If enough of us complain the state will shut them dowm.

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» left by Mogama (35,756)
Mogama
(96 days 8 hours ago.)

Thanks much for sharing this important information. ~mogama~

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» left by Allison from San Francisco, CA (66 days 6 hours ago.)
This happened to me last spring when I bought a DVD for $6.00! I never got a confirmation email about my membership and was very pleased when the DVD came only 2 days later with the free shipping! Luckily I am a meticulous person with my monetary transactions....I noticed RIGHT AWAY when an added charge was posted to my bank account. I immediately began searching the net and saw that many people had suffered from the same problem. I then canceled my account and looked up their customer service number. I tried calling and speaking to someone in person, but to no avail. I woke up the next morning, extra early, to call the customer service right when I knew their office would probably open. A man answered. I told him, "I did not sign up for this membership I am being charged for. I never authorized this membership fee to be taken from my account. This is illegal and I want the money placed back into my account immediately." The man was surprisingly polite and responsive; The money was completely refunded within a week. I'm sorry that you have all suffered too. My advice is to be clear and concise, simply state that it is illegal and that you did not authorize those charges. They will refund you no questions asked.

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» left by Brett from United States (53 days 12 hours ago.)
Reader Rating: 5 out of 5
Don't buy the previous comment. I just discovered I've been getting ripped off by SmartSavings for at least six months(on a credit card I had stopped using and put away some time ago) and tried calling the number listed here about 10 minutes ago. A recording said "the number cannot be completed as dialed or has been disconnected". I've filed a fraud complaint with my credit card company and will be contacting the Florida Attorney General's office ASAP. These people will NOT get away with this!!!!!!

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