Burning Books, Bibles, and Music CD's: Amazing Grace or Arrogance?

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» left by Ken McCreless from Event Horizon (25 days 21 hours ago.)

Wow, Sis, I would not have thought, in this day and age, that book burning would still be an issue. Such ignorance!

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 21 hours ago.)

I know, it's a sad thing.

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» left by Ronyae ^(4,519) (25 days 21 hours ago.)

How is it his choice?! I'm outraged at how people tend to take the Lord's work in their own hands. Thanks Teresa, you have shared a good article.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 21 hours ago.)

I hear you Ronyae, I hope these people come to their senses. Imagine, they are going to have a BBQ during all of this to celebrate. For their communities sake, I hope this group remains small. Such self-righteous and sinful behavior - surely the Jesus of the King James Version of the Bible is weaping.

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» left by Connor Davidson ^(5,137)
Connor Davidson (25 days 14 hours ago.)

Great article. Well done.

 

That guy is crazy! Here is a great saying: "once one burns books one soon burns people". By desroying those books he is attempting to destroy an institution and that will cause resistance.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 9 hours ago.)

HI Connor, thanks for your input. I agree with you.

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» left by Nancy Daniels (25 days 12 hours ago.)

Teresa,

 

I am appalled.  How ignorant but also arrogant.  Much like those who banned In the Garden. These types of people give Christianity a bad a name in their extremist views.  Satan is definitely ahead of the game in the world today but you are so correct, this group puts a smile on his face as well.

 

Thanks for a great article and for this information.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 9 hours ago.)

HI Nancy, It's too bad because worse than giving Christianity a bad name is that this little group doesn't realize they are a pawn in the devils hand and doing this will certainly turn more people away from God, which is exactly what the devil wants. I appreciate your input. I am waiting for the comment that will use this opportinuty to blast Christians - the hate will certainly come out -- I hope to be wrong, but I know better. Blessings to you! T

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» left by Lorrie Davids ^(7,476)
Lorrie Davids (25 days 9 hours ago.)

Teresa, I guess no one could be saved before the authorized 1611 (?) KJV as far as some are concerned. Very sad. Danny and I agree with you 100%.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 8 hours ago.)

Seriously! This might be hard to believe, but my dad received Christ when someone shared with him using that old bible called "The Greatest is Love" an old paraphrase! He grew in knowledge using it, then later used the KJV because it is a word for word translation and not a paraphrase. Thankfully, he is not a fanactic against other versions. I agree, some are a bit watered down in their attempt to be "clearer", but from Satan? Well then, praise the Lord, God's enemy is ushering people into the kingdom of God!!! Very, sad. And I am sad for these people, I can't judge their hearts, but their actions, if they go through with this, are misled.

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» left by Jim Anderson ⁽⁶⁹⁹⁾
Jim Anderson (25 days 6 hours ago.)

As a member of Saddleback Church myself, I have been exposed firsthand to the critics of the evangelical Church.  There is a small, but very vocal, portion of the Church that has become very "legalistic" and have made rules that sound biblical but are based on serious contextual errors and misinterpretations.  Rick Warren is a high profile target that gets them publicity.  So what Rick Warren has been teaching is that we need to respond in love to factual errors, and keep them from spreading misinformation, but otherwise ignore them and focus on God's work.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 4 hours ago.)

Hi Jim, you are just one example of my point in this piece - you are a man of God, with sound biblical doctrine from what I have seen thus far, with a heart to encourage and bless others and you attend the church pastored by one of the men whose books will be burned. Like I said, heartbreaking! I have sat under many wonderful pastors. Some of them use the KJV and others NKJV and occasionally the NIV - amazing how the doctrines are exactly the same. My former pastor has been the brunt of legalistic mumbo-jumbo because he allowed a group of bikers to come into our church building in their leathers. Imagine that. Okay, now I better stop or else, I will be in sin. Blessings to you! Teresa

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» left by Jim Anderson ⁽⁶⁹⁹⁾
Jim Anderson (24 days ago.)

Rick Warren once said something to the effect that if we banned sinners from coming to church, no one would be allowed in. And, if you are looking for the perfect church and you find one, don't join it, or it won't be perfect anymore.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (23 days 23 hours ago.)

So true, that is what our pastor always says. Having our sinful nature is no excuse and license to sin, since we are to "reckon ourselves dead to sin", but the fact is we stumble at times and that is when grace steps in.

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» left by P. Maddox from Cali (25 days 4 hours ago.)

EVERYONE has the right to read, listen and watch on TV what they choose.

 

This guy is an IDIOT!

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 1 hour ago.)

Exactly. I hope the conviction comes over him so strong that he realizes how wrong it is and will not be able to go through with it.

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» left by Paul Schroeder ^(1,740) (25 days 2 hours ago.)

Theresa,did you know that in mainland China,to which we owe many billions of dollars,the bible is an illegal book to sell ,read or own?God's honest truth;Paul Schroeder

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 1 hour ago.)

Hi Paul, thanks yes, I am aware of that, and I hope and pray America will stay the land of the free, so yes, he can burn them if he wants, but it's disgusting that he does it like he is doing God a favor. Though the apostle Paul once did something similar (worse) but then repented when he saw the Truth. I pray these people do the same. This is the problem with people who put pious and self-righteous religion above the basic teachings of Jesus.  I just don't understand how burning books and cd's is going to advance their cause and belief in Grace. It doesn't compute. I would understand more if non-believers or satanic church members burned Bibles, but not those who call themselves members of the body of Christ - this goes against the Bible's teaching - the one they supposedly read. 

 

And by the way, any government who tells people what they can and can't do when it comes to religious or spiritual beliefs in a scary thing.

 

Thanks for the kind comment, paul :-)

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» left by Philip Yaffe from Brussels (18 days 3 hours ago.)

I have found a number of Internet sites that conflict with this claim. Here is one of them.

 

Over 46 million Bibles have been legally printed in China since 1988. The number of Bibles that the Chinese government has permitted the Amity Press to print has exceeded five million per year in 2004 and 2005 respectively. Although some of these Bibles are exported, the vast majority of them are distributed domestically.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (7 days 8 hours ago.)

HI phil, thanks for your input. I know many are smuggled in and I know most of the Christians there are persecuted. I am going to check out what you found as well. I haven't forgotten about the latest questions. I am sorry I didn't get a chance to work on them before I left Oregon. As soon as I get set up in CA, I will work on them. I am hoping to be up and running by the 4th. Blessings dear friend. I miss our conversations. :-)

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» left by Terry Scerine ⁽¹⁸⁹⁾
Terry Scerine (25 days 2 hours ago.)

Little wonder this congregation has only 14 members. It sounds very similar to "Christian" cults I've known of, whose leaders were self-righteous, legalistic and condemning, and whose "followers" were few and whose ministries have ultimately failed as a result (thank God).

 

Thanks for keeping a vigilant eye on such things Teresa.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (25 days 1 hour ago.)

Hi Terry, I do hope this group sees the Truth in the Bible they say they follow. I know this is nothing new, it just erks me everytime. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it.

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» left by Linda DeWitt ^(1,909)
Linda DeWitt (24 days 20 hours ago.)

This really is a sad situation. Hopefully we will all remember to pray for God's will to be done and not theirs. Great article. God Bless, Linda D

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (24 days 19 hours ago.)

Hi Linda, Amen. A change of heart would be great! May God be glorified and His grace be made known to these people. God bless you too! Teresa

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» left by Marijo Phelps ^(2,734)
Marijo Phelps (24 days 4 hours ago.)

Hi T! Got online at my sister's place. Well written and pretty awful news. There is so much angst in some of this that says "we are the only way and if you aren't with us then you lose" Jesus is the only way and I suspect much of this makes him cry. Thanks for shining a spot light on this. Having a wonderful time! Hope you are doing well with the boxes! Love ya, Marijo

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (23 days 23 hours ago.)

Hi Marijo, glad you are having a good time. Yes, I am just having all kinds of fun with he boxes! Lots to get done before Art gets home Sunday!

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» left by Susan Thom ^(12,006)
Susan Thom (24 days 1 hour ago.)

hi t,

 

we are assuming this man is of his "right mind".

 

he could be deranged in his thinking, or truly believes what he is practicing.

 

look at manson, and jones, and the polygamists that bed down with 13 year old girls. these people are sick, and there's no accountability for that.

 

and yet, they are held in high acclaim by many. we were given free choice, and this man is using his-it's the people who follow him who need counsel.

 

mind control is a dangerous thing.

 

anytime, anywhere.

 

thanks for sharing,

 

my best,

 

sue

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (23 days 23 hours ago.)

I agree Sue, thanks for your input. It is always appreciated!

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» left by Danny Davids ^(19,715)
Danny Davids (23 days 7 hours ago.)

Teresa, I've actually heard people say that if you didn't obtain salvation through the Scripture of the King James version of the Bible, then you aren't truly saved. How sad for all those people who died before 1611! And I guess the people who spoke directly with Jesus are just, well, screwed. (Now THERE'S a Christian word!) Thank you for sharing and reminding us that God works in different ways for different people.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (19 days 22 hours ago.)

HI Danny, that's crazy! I hadn't heard that. Very sad. Thanks for your input. I appreciate it! Praying for a change of heart!

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» left by Robert Melaccio, Sr. ^(5,168)
Robert Melaccio, Sr. (19 days ago.)

Hi Gal. I haven't been able to comment to folks so I decided to respond here. If you get this send me a note on my last article. If not I'll know it was deleted. best wishes, prayers, Robert

 

By the way anotehr great job!

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (7 days 8 hours ago.)

Did you ever get my response to you on your article. Blessings dear friend

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» left by Michael Ramzy ⁽⁶³³⁾
Michael Ramzy (18 days 10 hours ago.)

We should all be deeply troubled: burning books is the definition of ignorance, especially when these books probably haven't been read. Another example of someone hijacking faith for personal gain. Not to worry, though: he'll have to explain himself in the end.

Well done.

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» left by Teresa Ortiz ^(10,987)
Teresa Ortiz (7 days 8 hours ago.)

Hi Michael. Thanks for reading and your input. I always appreciate it. And I couldn't agree more with you. Blessings. Teresa

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» left by robert melaccio (1 day 14 hours ago.)

Yes. got it but some I don't. ???? Since I have to go to the library for a computer it is hard to respond as often. I hope all is well. We're going through the desert. It seems ours is a rather long one since we have been walking it for a long time now.  REgrads as always, Robert

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